Ah, yes manifold, I couldn't think of the proper name. Well I guess the question I have for you is how you sweated the valve. Not having sight, I wouldn't say I wouldn't try, but I'd sure want to know how it could be done so I wouldn't wind up with a leak on my hands. grin
Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 16, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Dale Leavens wrote: > Well, the first thing you will need to do if changing the main shut- > off > valve is to have the water turned off at the street. After that > code takes > over but I had one fail several years ago, actually what happened > was the > Plummer over tightened the waste cap so when I released it to drain > water > from my system it flew off and another could not be installed > because it was > the male thread which was gone which left me with nothing to do but > turn off > the main. I was able to isolate some of the house and feed water > through the > outside taps and hoses to my neighbour's house. Of course it > happened on a > Saturday night because that was when I was doing the work. The town > sent a > fellow around in the morning to locate the cock at the back lane > which he > managed to break but fortunately in the off position. I had then to > wait > until Monday to get a back hoe to excavate to the water main and > instal > another valve out there in the lane. In the meantime the fellow who > owns our > local hardware store opened it Sunday morning and got me a new shut- > off > valve which I sweated in to replace the old. I only wish too that > it had > been a ball valve, I don't know if that is code though. > > Our water here isn't metered yet although there is some talk of it > recently. > > What you do after the meter though is probably your business. I > believe that > any fittings underground though must be flare fittings and it is a > flare > fitting here just before the first indoor shut-off. I know because > i removed > it to sweat it off of the damaged valve and back on the new valve. I > couldn't just cut it off because I didn't have the tools to create > a new > flare and at that point didn't fancy buying them because I wasn't > sure the > municipality would pick up the cost of replacing the one in the > ground and > this money saving plumbing job was suddenly looking at getting very > expensive. > > That box arrangement you were speaking of is called a manifold. > Because of > the cost and relative ease of running individual PEX to each > location and > with fewer joints and often longer sweeps of curves it is practical > to use > slightly smaller pipe directly to each fixture. One advantage is > that it is > easier to isolate any individual fixture. With smaller hot water > tubes there > is less standing hot water in the pipe so the water runs hot sooner > and less > heat is lost standing in the pipe. > > Another technique is to run branch manifolds where maybe you run a > line to a > bathroom then break it out into multiple branches to service the > fixtures > there, another to the laundry and so on.Of course the standard > trunk method > is also still used. > > I did find a wonderful site with little video clips and text > transcriptions > of the audio of those clips last night which I had intended to > bookmark and > send along but inadvertently lost it while distracted to something > else. If > I find it again I will do better. > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype DaleLeavens > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:24 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] replacing water supply valves > > > Folks, here's another issue I need to deal with. > > > > We have this 2 by 4 foot hole in the wall where one accesses the > > water meter and shutoff valves. Here's the deal, I want to shrink > > the hole a good bit and this would also please my wife. So what I > > want to do is remove the two old gate valves which aren't really > > leaking, but if you turn them off, they tend to drip and well they > > are getting a lot of settament built up on them. I figure they are > > gonna faile and yes they do, I had this happen in my previous home. > > Well the idea is to replace these with ball-valves which are nearly > > fail proof. So, since I don't swet pipes and not sure if I could do > > it or explain to my wife how to do it, I was wondering if first > would > > it be code (I live in Maryland) or could it be up to code to use > > compression fittings and secondly would it be a wise idea to > begin with. > > My other thought is while I'm thinking about all this, I may look to > > a pipe replacement project at some point, either a little at a time > > or might go all out. I'm considering PEX or some similar material > and > > so would need to mate this with coper since I'm working from the > main > > line into the house and the meter has a valve on either side and of > > course its all coper. > > Any thought appreciated. > > > > tnx > > > > Scott > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > > http://acbradio.org/handyman.html > > or > > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > > http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > > > Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > Various > > List Members At The Following address: > > http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ > > > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind > Handy Man > > list just send a blank message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! 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