Michael Never mind the question about the oil pump. I reread the last post from Larry and I got my answer. If I do any thing at all with this motor such as gaskets, seals and basic clean up I will go ahead and replace the oil pump. Thanks Robert
-----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:49 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rebuilding the 4.3 B6: Maybe Seals and gaskets wouldn't hurt, clean any sludge out of the oil pan and valve covers, and put it back together. Might get another 100 150k out of it, a lot depends on how it was and will be taken care of. I may do a timing set, especially if it is a plastic one. Michael _____ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of robert moore Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 15:04 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rebuilding the 4.3 B6: Maybe OK OK I give. Crying Uncle. If this was an old 283 or 327 or maybe an old 400 wild cat like the one sitting out in the shed in the 61 Buic LaSaber I might think I may want to persue this project. No advice needed on the Buick since it is not mine and not ever likely to become mine. I am starting to think that this motor is not worth the expense. On the other hand what do you guys think about leaving the gutts well enough alone and just changing the gaskets in order to prolong any risk of leaking coolant or oil and such. I just thought since it will be out in the open I would cover some of the basics with out getting too far into it. My last option, and who knows maybe my best option at this point is to just leave well enough alone. Don't get me wrong I am not getting afraid of this project I am just trying to way the cost and effort with the potential pay off. Since I don't even yet have a destination for this engine. Thank you all for the great feed back. -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:15 AM To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rebuilding the 4.3 B6: Maybe Robert, If the cylinders have more than about .006 taper from top to bottom you will probably want to bore it. This will mean purchasing a new set of pistons in the correct over-size as well as a trip to the machine shop to have the block professionally machined. You will need to hit the machine shop for a few other precision measurements whether or not you need to bore your block. You will need to have the crank-shaft mains and rod journals measured to make certain it will hold a new set of Barings. You will also want the guy to measure the main baring thrust. This is a preset measure usually about .003 to .005 end play so that as the engine warms up and the parts expand the crank doesn't lock up in the block. When you get closer to tare-down time I know a few back yard tricks that will clue what trouble areas to look for. One more thing even in a basic motor refresh you will absolutely want to replace the cam, lifters and most especially the oil pump. -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of robert moore Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 9:57 PM To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rebuilding the 4.3 B6: Maybe As far as goals for this engine, they are simple. I am not looking for more power or milage. If I get either, all the better. I am simply thinking that with 150K on the engine If I plant it in something I don't want to have to deal with some of the commen high milage failures after going to all the work to up root and transplant it. Things like leaking main seals, head gasket failures, and all of the anoiing coolant leaks that I had to deal with on my S10 last year. And I figure with new rings and bearings if done wright the engine should last a long time. So there you have it in a nut shell. Now for determining if the engine is too warn to hone what is involved in that and if it is "too warn to hone" then what does a fello do. If I am going to be looking at boring and oversizing the pistons then I will scrap the engine because for me at this time it would not be worth the money . there are a ton of these little 4.3 engines out there. The trucks are rapidly rotting out from undernieth good engines all the time. Thanks for your feed back. Robert -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:28 PM To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Rebuilding the 4.3 B6: Maybe Robert, Yes they sell a rering kit for most engines, it usually comes with the main and rod bearings, piston rings, and all gaskets needed to do the job. You will need to buy the timing set separately. I get my engine kits from www.northernautoparts.com As far as honing, you can do that at home with a drill and hone, but it is possible your engine is to far warn to be honed. It depends on what your goals are with this rebuild. Michael _____ From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of robert moore Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 18:26 To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rebuilding the 4.3 B6: Maybe I am giving some thought to rebuilding the 4.3 that I am taking out of the Jimmy. Well actually rebuilding might not be the proper term. If I do this at all, and I don't know if I willl, I again will be doing it for the simple reason of the sence of accomplishment. I won't do it until next summer. No heat in garage and not a lot of room. But I digress. What I am really looking to do is freshen it up. I have a list of things in my head for what I think needs to be done when going through an engine like this. What I am looking at goes some thbing like this The things I think I would need to replace are all of the gaskets Head, intake, oil pan, valve cover Inside I am looking at rings, connecting rod bearings, front and rear main seals, I think also as long as it is out and easy to get at I should replace the timeing chain or belt. I think this one has a chain but not sure. Question is, Can I get a one stop complete kit for this type of job? Also have I missed any major category? As I am thinking about it I know I have failed to mention a few small things like throttle body base gasket thermostat housing gasket and so on but I can check the list later. Now my other question is about prepping the cilenders. Can I do this at home with a drill and a honing stone like I used to do in small engine shop or do I need to drag it to a shop. I am not looking at boring it out or going with an oversized cam or any of that Like I said Just want to freshen it up. Let me know your thoughts. Robert Moore The sleep shade mechanic. Really I don't thingk of myself so much as a Mechanic, I call myself an automotive handy man. -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Don Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:48 PM To: blind handy man Cc: blindlikeme@ <mailto:blindlikeme%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] This weeks shows. Hard too believe another week has gone by. Almost show time again. This week on the handy show, Don reads some mail we talk with Tom Houston, And we talk with our own handy man list member Jennifer Jackson. She will tell us all about her house buying experiences. Listen in and find out all about that. 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