Larry, Thanks for the tip. I only plan to use these things is on fairly long 
trips. The next trip that I plan is to take Christian to the natural bridge 
in Virginia. I will need an inverter for that trip. I think that I will put 
a cube tap in the inverter at the back of the van. and run an extension cord 
to the front.Christian can then hook up his DS or DVD player and I can hook 
up Trekker in the front.
I wonder if this unit for $15 regular price of $70 has the automatic 
shutoff. Looks like I have more research.
Thanks for all of the advice and tips.
Lenny
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Stansifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] power inverters


Lenny,

All of the ones that are worth having have a failsafe shut off switch that
kills the inverter when the battery voltage reaches the 10.5 range so that
you will still have enough battery to start the motor. Keep in mind these
are all perfect world numbers and the damn thing can still break your heart
if the battery, starter, battery cables or charging system are not up to
snuff.
If you are intent upon using an inverter regularly I would highly recommend
a duel battery set up with a current control relay that only allows the
second battery to charge when it's voltage drops below a certain level. The
entire installation kit can be purchased for less than a hundred bucks and
the piece of mind a second battery provides. *priceless*

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 4:31 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] power inverters


Sorry but this is going to be a very long post.
Some time ago I purchased a 90w inverter on sale for about $13. On our way
to Canada I used it to power my Trekker. About halfway there my grandson's
game system ran out of power so I hooked it up to the inverter. The way I
had it wired there was only one plug.
I know he would like it for his mom's car. Where I purchased they now have a

160w with a 300w peak for $15. Since my van has a much heavier battery, 850
cca,  and charging system I thought about giving the 90w to Christian and
getting the 160w for me. If we ever go on another long trip that one would
have no problem with his games, trekker and Karen's camera.
My question is how can I figure out how long to let it run with the motor
shut off?  Another question is will the 160w always require the same input
power regardless of the output requirements?
I am not sure how these new inverters work, I suspect that they increase the

battery draw depending upon the demand but am not sure.
The van has several 12v outlets, two are controlled via the key and the 3rd
is always hot.
Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
with many resources.
http://www.geocities.com/lenny_mchugh/
Lenny


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