well found a petcot located on the side of the radiator
nothing like what i remember a petcot looking like
it was a plug that was removed via a alan wrench
however i chose to take lenny's advise after freezing for a while under this 
thing looking for the petcot
after looking for a bleeder valve and not finding it i took to the local presto 
lube 
took only a few mins of the day and was done hooked via a vaccum to a valve on 
the heater core
removed the old and filled the new this way  hundred bucks done deal
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] drainingg and refilling antifreeze


  The only thing I can add is that refilling is done through the expansion 
tank. Most GM radiators don't have caps any longer. It's pretty pricey to buy 
the stuff to fill the system using pressure. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] drainingg and refilling antifreeze

  Mark,

  This is probably a better question for Bob but here is my two cents worth
  from the corner.

  The only way that you can drain that system is by removing the lower
  radiator hose and stand by for the inevitable shower. There should be some
  kind of a filler type cap or fitting on the top of the radiator core however
  it will in no way resemble the RAD caps we are used to. Now instead of
  having a traditional upper tank and pressure cap on the radiator there is an
  expansion or overflow tank. When an engine overheats the coolant is forced
  up a hose into this tank rather than running out on the ground. Finally
  there should be a fitting on top of the thermostat housing to purge the air.
  Honestly my friend I would probably take it to a trusted technician because
  now days you can get hung for not disposing of coolant in the government
  approved manner. Secondly pulling the hose doesn't always get all of the old
  coolant out of the motor and finally if you don't get all of the air out of
  the system it can create an air-lock that could cost you a motor.
  The current state of the industry is to suction the old coolant out of the
  system, replace the thermostat and refill with fresh coolant.
  I have done this job using the lower hose and bucket routine but it is no
  fun and I do not recommend it.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of mark
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:56 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] drainingg and refilling antifreeze

  hey gang
  got a 2002 chevy venture van
  and need to change the antifreeze 
  did not find a petcot valve to drain the antifreeze that is in the system
  can anyone shed some light where this is located 
  and seems like the radiator cap is not on top of the radiator so how do i
  refill with the fressh antifreeze the next thing is where is the bleeder
  valves located to purge the air out of this thing thanks alot any help would
  be great it is getting alittle cold up here in n. e. pa. and do not want to
  freeze the block thanks again

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