Hmmm, interesting thread about cutting saws! I've used saws and I was always taught to push and then pull. But.I play Beep Ball and when I practice my swing, I'm supposed to pull back so I can get a good forceful swing when I swing to hit the ball. I wonder if I might have more control over a saw and the blade by pulling it toward me and then pushing! I can imagine this would be a safer way to make a cut than pushing a saw and not having a lot of control of the blade unless it was lined up straight. I realize this isn't a very technical assessment but.makes sense.
Jo Taliaferro empowering people to live with their choices From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:01 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] any joiners about Well now I think you've made such a compelling argument, I just might have to check them out now. I think that is why I've avoided using handsaws. On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: > > > The Japanese believe you have more control by pulling. If you study > Judo for any time, you'll see many of the throws deal with pulling > your opponent to you and then throwing. You pull to you because the > other guy chose to push. > > I've heard a bunch of reasons behind the push pull theories, and you > can take them for what they are worth. I have played Judo for a > number of years though and I know that to be true... > > And if you want a market study, try to find a Western push style saw > that cuts as easy or as fast and is anywhere near the size of a > Japanese style saw. I got one of mine from japanwoodworker.com and > with shipping it was $32.50. The only thing I have that is close to > the cutting speed is a Swedish tree pruning saw. The teeth on the > tree saw are about 5/8 inches long and hacks away at a board. I can > go through a 3/8 oak dowel with my Japanese saw in less than 5 > seconds and you can hardly feel where the cut was made. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Howell > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:23 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] any joiners about > > You know I've read this thread with some interest. It seems to me that > it would be more natural to cut on the pull stroke instead of the push > stroke. I hadn't thought much about it until reading this thread, but > seems you would have a little more control over the cut by pulling > instead of pushing. I wonder where the idea of cutting on the push > stroke came from and why the Japanese came up with a saw that cuts on > the pull stroke. All very interesting questions. > > On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:44 PM, Bob Kennedy wrote: > > > > > > > Try Japanwoodworker.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Spiro > > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] any joiners about > > > > these sound like an improvement. > > Where does one acquire them? > > > > On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Tom Fowle wrote: > > > > > I have two "japanese" style hand saws, > > > one is a "back saw" for I assume doing accurate joinery type cuts > > and the other > > > is a double edged rip and cross cut saw. > > > They are very thin and flexible, and the handles are long wooden > > ovals that > > > extend maybe 8 or 10 inches beyond the "pull" end of the saw. > > > You have to stand back from the work a bit to get a good straight > > pull. > > > > > > I am no joinery crafts person, can barely cut to follow scribed > > marks straight > > > but these are easy to use when you keep them going straight so > > they don't > > > bind, and I think they bind less than "push" > > > saws. > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > Tom Fowle > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
