here is the link again, I tested it and it works. If your e-mail wraps it, you will need to cut and paste it into the address bar and remove all spaces. http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/reports/rr-0401-conditioned-crawl-s pace-construction-performance-and-codes/view
It is a report on crawl spaces, which, essentially, I think it was Max was asking about, for the teddy bear cottage and house being on a few rows of blocks. The report explains vented, and conditioned crawl spaces, and gives data on using conditioned crawl spaces. Instead of starting a debate on whether a crawl space should be vented or not, I thought it was best to give a link to scientific evidence. Michael _____ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Spiro Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:08 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. I got an old 404 not found. So please tell of it's advantages, disadvantages; and absolute "must have" situations. Thanks On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Michael baldwin wrote: > check out this publication, it should help you out. > > http://www.building <http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/reports/rr-0401-conditioned-crawl- s> science.com/documents/reports/rr-0401-conditioned-crawl-s > pace-construction-performance-and-codes/view > > > Michael > > > _____ > > From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Max Robinson > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:37 PM > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. > > > > > Both my shop and Sue's teddybear cottage are sitting on blocks with the > bottom of the siding about 12 inches above ground. We have thought about > installing 1 by 12 treated boards around them to keep the cold wind from > infiltrating underneath and taking away heat. One reservation I have is > trapping ground moisture under the buildings. This would be a permanent > year round installation. What are the thoughts of all you handy men and > women? > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: m...@maxsmusicplace. <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com> com > > Transistor site http://www.funwitht <http://www.funwitht <http://www.funwithtransistors.net> ransistors.net> > ransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwitht <http://www.funwitht <http://www.funwithtubes.net> ubes.net> ubes.net > Music site: http://www.maxsmusi <http://www.maxsmusi <http://www.maxsmusicplace.com> cplace.com> cplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. > funwithtransistors- <mailto:funwithtransistors-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> > subscr...@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > funwithtubes- <mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> > subscr...@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee A. Stone" <se...@mailsent. <mailto:sedac%40mailsent.net> net> > To: <blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:52 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. > >> 7 >> we still pak snow on theNorth and West side of the house after the >> first few snow falls. does great for stopping some drafts. and for >> the bilco doors we cover them with plastic and pile the shnow on top >> of that. Lee >> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:30:40PM -0600, William Stephan >> wrote: >>> Yes Dale, very helpful. The guy at the lumber yard I talked to was >>> trying >>> to sell me plastic sheeting like you might cover a window with, so I'm >>> going >>> to have to do some more research into what we have available here. >>> Thanks >>> again. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com >>> [mailto:blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com] >>> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens >>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 17:10 >>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The Polystyrene we buy usually comes in 2 by 8 sheets with rebate like >>> edges >>> so that they can overlap. It comes in various thicknesses, usually inch >>> and >>> a half or two inches. You can cut it with a hand saw or even score it >>> deeply >>> then snap it but that isn't as nice an edge. for some reason they usually >>> colour it blue to distinguish it from the open cell Styrofoam, this stuff > >>> is >>> a higher insulation value. There is special sealing tape, it is a lot >>> like >>> the wide packing tape you are probably familiar with, when I bought it it >>> was red I don't know if that is significant. >>> >>> The point is to insulate but also to keep warm air, particularly when you >>> have paid to heat it inside. >>> >>> Now this stuff can be flammable and is best covered if there is any >>> significant risk of exposure to open flame. It can also be helpful for >>> holding it into place. You can run screws through something like particle >>> board and the foam into structure beyond it. I have used wide washers, a >>> couple of inches to hold the heads of screws to hold it into place. A >>> little >>> glue like liquid nails or even some calking on the structure then press >>> the >>> foam into it should also work well in your application. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: William Stephan >>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:14 PM >>> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>> >>> Dale: all good points really. The only reason I was thinking about a >>> temporary set up is that occasionally, the varmint-killing cat leaves us >>> a >>> little something under the porch until the possums get it. But, of >>> course, >>> if the foundation were blocked he wouldn't be doing that in any case. The >>> roof itself, according to the manufacturer, is pretty well insolated. >>> It's >>> about five or six inches thick. If the snow ever meltsz, I'll go see what >>> the lumber yard has in terms of >>> >>> Extruded Polystyrene. Thanks for the eye-opener. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@ >>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] >>> On Behalf Of Dale Leavens >>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 21:14 >>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>> >>> Is there any good reason why you wouldn't want to block air infiltration >>> in >>> the summer as well? >>> >>> It would be my inclination to wrap the inside of what ever skirting you >>> have >>> around the deck foundation with something like extruded polystyrene >>> sheets >>> and seal them together with the tape sold for that purpose. I would look >>> for >>> ways of sealing it tightly at the top and bottom, keep any air from >>> entering >>> or leaving except between the room and under the floor. Unless the dogs >>> are >>> piddling through the deck or for some other reason you need to air the >>> area >>> to keep stink down there isn't any good reason to loose heated or cooled >>> air >>> to the good outdoors and, it is expensive as well. >>> >>> I would consider insulating under the roof as well if there is a >>> convenient >>> and practical way to do so. You would probably find your heater raised >>> the >>> temperature 50 or 60 degrees, you might even find you want to turn it off >>> quite a bit. >>> >>> If you feel the need to circulate air through the structure you can >>> always >>> open the windows and in that way choose when and how much cold you >>> require. >>> >>> If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: William Stephan >>> To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:40 PM >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Blocking the wind. >>> >>> All: >>> >>> We have a sort of three-season room on the north side of our house. It >>> faces off into a yard surrounded by privacy fences and a couple garages. >>> The room is sort of unique. It started life as just an open deck. We had >>> a >>> pre-fabricated aluminum room added shortly after we took up residence >>> here. >>> This room is all aluminum and glass with two aluminum doors and many >>> sliding >>> windows. During winter we use this room as a sort of mud room, and it's >>> where we groom our dogs as well. Because of that, when it was >>> constructed, >>> the deck floor was taken up, and an aluminum screen was put in place, and >>> the deck flooring was then replaced on top of this screen. Our idea was >>> that snow from boots and shovels and dogs, and spillage from our fountain >>> etc. would just drain through the cracks between the decking, an bugs >>> couldn't come through either and that part's worked well for us. >>> >>> We've been having snow here, more snow than anybody's seen in twenty or >>> thirty years. It blows here too, and there's quite a bit of snow piled >>> and >>> drifted around this three season room. To keep it more or less useable, >>> we >>> have one of those Sun Twin 5,000 BTU heaters there, and typically, it >>> keeps >>> the temperature between 20 an 25 degrees above the outdoor temperature. >>> This year though, it's been keeping the room about 30 or 35 degrees above >>> the outside temperature. I imagine a lot of this is because of the snow >>> around the foundation. There are several gaps that allow air to circulate >>> pretty freely under thestructure. >>> >>> So, it might be a good idea to block these gaps, though probably only >>> during >>> the Winter months. >>> >>> Does anyone know if there might be say, bladders, that I could fill with >>> a >>> compresser that would form themselves in a way so as to fill gaps ofa few >>> incheshere or ther, and if so, what is the correct term for them? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any input on this. >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >> >> -- >> You will remember something that you should not have forgotten. >> . >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Send any questions regarding list management to: >> blindhandyman- <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> > ow...@yahoogroups. <mailto:owner%40yahoogroups.com> com >> To listen to the show archives go to link >> http://www.acbradio > <http://www.acbradio <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_ > .org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_ > page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29> > .org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_ > position=47:29 >> Or >> ftp://ftp.acbradio. <ftp://ftp.acbradio. <ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/> org/acbradio-archives/handyman/> > org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >> >> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >> http://www.acbradio > <http://www.acbradio <http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday> .org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday> > .org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >> >> Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various >> List Members At The Following address: >> http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/> users.com/JAWS/handyman/> > users.com/JAWS/handyman/ >> >> Visit the archives page at the following address >> http://www.mail- > <http://www.mail- <http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/> archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/> > archive.com/ <mailto:archive.com%2Fblindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ >> >> If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following >> address for more information: >> http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws-users.com/> users.com/> users.com/ >> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >> list just send a blank message to: >> blindhandyman- <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> > h...@yahoogroups. <mailto:help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> comYahoo! 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