On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 4:00 PM Yutaka Hirano <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry for the delay!
>
> I checked 10 sites. I saw console errors in three sites among them:
>  1. https://cchatty.com/
>  2. https://techrxiv.org/
>  3. https://bodyshake.com/
>
> I only see a visible breakage in 1 (cards in the main panel are
> invisible). On other sites I don't see any visible differences.
> Please note that this feature is related to authorization so it is likely
> to break things when signing in.
>

So it's possible that the breakage only occurs for logged in users, and is
not something you'd be able to see when spot checking their homepage?


>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 8:11 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Friendly ping on Chris' question
>>
>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 8:31:36 PM UTC+1 Chris Harrelson wrote:
>>
>>> Would it be feasible to get a random list of 10-20 sites that hit the
>>> use counter and see if they are broken badly by this feature?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:54 AM Yutaka Hirano <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (friendly ping)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 1:57 PM Yutaka Hirano <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have concrete steps for the investigation in your mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:30 AM Mike West <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's reasonable for us to dig into the data a little bit to
>>>>>> determine whether the 0.04% number quoted above will result in 
>>>>>> user-facing
>>>>>> breakage. Yutaka, is that something you'd be willing to dig into?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The direction seems philosophically correct to me, so I'd like to see
>>>>>> it ship, but I'd also like to make sure we're not making the web worse 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> users by doing so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:04 PM Yutaka Hirano <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:25 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:55 AM Yutaka Hirano <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (The implementation CL
>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3226283>
>>>>>>>>> is under review. This intent is written as if it's landed.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Contact [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>>> https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#cors-non-wildcard-request-header-name
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A CORS non-wildcard request header[1] is an HTTP request header
>>>>>>>>> which is not covered by the wildcard symbol ("*") in the
>>>>>>>>> access-control-allow-headers header. "authorization" is the only 
>>>>>>>>> member of
>>>>>>>>> CORS non-wildcard request-header. Currently we treat the header as a 
>>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>>> header, which is problematic for security reasons. Implement it, and 
>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>> the current behavior. 1:
>>>>>>>>> https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#cors-non-wildcard-request-header-name
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blink componentBlink>SecurityFeature>CORS
>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ESecurityFeature%3ECORS>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG reviewNot needed because this implements an existing feature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interoperability risk is low because Mozilla and Apple showed an
>>>>>>>>> intent to implement this behavior. There is some compatibility risk, 
>>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>>> use counter[2] shows 0.04% websites would be affected. To mitigate the
>>>>>>>>> risk, we've shown a deprecation message for a few milestones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you similarly send deprecation reports as well? How long have
>>>>>>>> the deprecation messages been in place? Did we see any decline in the
>>>>>>>> numbers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've shown the deprecation message since Chrome 94
>>>>>>> <https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/commit/9a817d69a132822ddf2954120e96a3efa2290071>
>>>>>>>  whose
>>>>>>> beta promotion was on Aug 26 and stable release was on Sep 21.
>>>>>>> We use CountDeprecation which sends deprecation reports
>>>>>>> automatically IIUC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see any decline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have we looked into which URLs are triggering this? (and if it's a
>>>>>>>> few medium-sized properties or many tiny ones)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't looked at the data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did we try outreach?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have an enterprise policy so that administrators can keep the
>>>>>>>>> existing behavior. We're planning to remove the policy on Chrome 103. 
>>>>>>>>> 2:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/popularity#AuthorizationCovered
>>>>>>>>> ByWildcard
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gecko: Positive Firefox showed a positive signal in a private
>>>>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WebKit: Positive Apple showed a positive signal in a private
>>>>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Web developers: No signals
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We'll show a CORS error to the devtools console.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>>> ?Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Flag nameCorsNonWildcardRequestHeadersSupport
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False (or, True only for the enterprise
>>>>>>>>> policy.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/1176753
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 97
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5742041264816128
>>>>>>>>>
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