Hi everyone! Philip, thanks for the encouragement, I'm super excited to deliver subgrid knowing that it's going to make so many devs happy.
@Mathias Bynens<mailto:math...@chromium.org> quick question, should I re-send the intent to prototype or just edit it here? Thanks in advance, Ethan From: Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:03 AM To: Mathias Bynens <math...@chromium.org> Cc: Ethan Jimenez <etha...@microsoft.com>; blink-dev@chromium.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: CSS Subgrid Hi Ethan, It's great to see this Intent to Prototype. 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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 6:42 PM 'Ethan Jimenez' via blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org<mailto:blink-dev@chromium.org>> wrote: Contact emails etha...@microsoft.com<mailto:etha...@microsoft.com> Explainer None Specification https://drafts.csswg.org/css-grid-2<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrafts.csswg.org%2Fcss-grid-2&data=04%7C01%7Cethavar%40microsoft.com%7Cbdddf08c1dcf40165a1508d9db6d855f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637782085742533666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=OMrMagG%2FkAcv8nVpSvlEhB%2Bn0lSHNmmT0b57y9yWP8E%3D&reserved=0> Design docs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cpsCmzdDlXUKtMxOUKIoJFyLH54mLVhZnam_z0PriO0/edit?usp=sharing<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1cpsCmzdDlXUKtMxOUKIoJFyLH54mLVhZnam_z0PriO0%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cethavar%40microsoft.com%7Cbdddf08c1dcf40165a1508d9db6d855f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637782085742533666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Rh21bJEt8PUvZlotanEy8iO5EFNwasu40CynTSe6k4k%3D&reserved=0> Summary Implements the CSS Grid Layout Module Level 2 specification, which introduces the concept of a "subgrid" to nested grid containers. Blink component Blink>CSS<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.chromium.org%2Fp%2Fchromium%2Fissues%2Flist%3Fq%3Dcomponent%3ABlink%253ECSS&data=04%7C01%7Cethavar%40microsoft.com%7Cbdddf08c1dcf40165a1508d9db6d855f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637782085742533666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Z4KMPmXHJi3M8KiJxNUIZ2lpgW%2BkFLbvbfgt6oW0U9U%3D&reserved=0> Motivation The problem CSS Subgrid solves is inheritance within nested grid containers: only direct children of a grid container are aware of its parent's grid properties, e.g., the size of its tracks, the names of each grid line. Whenever web authors work with a grid spanning some area within another grid, the children of the innermost grid are unaware of the outermost grid structure, which could potentially be a disadvantage if authors want those items to be aligned to other descendants of the outermost grid. 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