(I'm not Mathias, but...)
You can just respond to this thread with the debug info, and update the
Chromestatus entry as well - thanks!
On 1/20/22 3:57 PM, 'Ethan Jimenez' via blink-dev wrote:
Hi everyone!
Philip, thanks for the encouragement, I’m super excited to deliver
subgrid knowing that it’s going to make so many devs happy.
@Mathias Bynens <mailto:math...@chromium.org> quick question, should I
re-send the intent to prototype or just edit it here?
Thanks in advance,
Ethan
*From:* Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:03 AM
*To:* Mathias Bynens <math...@chromium.org>
*Cc:* Ethan Jimenez <etha...@microsoft.com>; blink-dev@chromium.org
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: CSS Subgrid
Hi Ethan,
It's great to see this Intent to Prototype. Subgrid tends to come up
as important in web developer surveys, the latest being State of CSS 2021:
https://2021.stateofcss.com/en-US/opinions/#browser_interoperability_features
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It's a part of Interop 2022
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for this reason
So I hope this all goes well :D
Best regards,
Philip
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 8:09 AM Mathias Bynens <math...@chromium.org>
wrote:
The required “Debuggability” section was left empty. Please follow
https://goo.gle/devtools-checklist
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and elaborate on how developers would inspect & debug this new
feature. Per the guide, we need to ensure DevTools supports basic
editing of the new CSS properties and values — which would likely
work out-of-the-box anyhow. Please elaborate.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 6:42 PM 'Ethan Jimenez' via blink-dev
<blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
*Contact emails*
etha...@microsoft.com <mailto:etha...@microsoft.com>
*Explainer*
None
*Specification*
https://drafts.csswg.org/css-grid-2
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*Design docs*
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*Summary*
Implements the CSS Grid Layout Module Level 2 specification,
which introduces the concept of a "subgrid" to nested grid
containers.
*Blink component*
Blink>CSS
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*Motivation*
The problem CSS Subgrid solves is inheritance within nested
grid containers: only direct children of a grid container are
aware of its parent's grid properties, e.g., the size of its
tracks, the names of each grid line. Whenever web authors work
with a grid spanning some area within another grid, the
children of the innermost grid are unaware of the outermost
grid structure, which could potentially be a disadvantage if
authors want those items to be aligned to other descendants of
the outermost grid. A "subgrid" is a nested grid container
whose row and column definitions are deferred to its parent;
with such concept in mind, the problem above is mitigated by
inheriting the grid properties and alignment from the spanned
grid area in its parent grid.
*Initial public proposal*
*Search tags*
subgrid
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*TAG review*
*TAG review status*
Not applicable
*Risks*
*Interoperability and Compatibility*
This is a well-defined specification from the W3C, so we would
be addressing some interoperability gaps instead of causing them.
/Gecko/: Shipped/Shipping
/WebKit/: Positive
/Web developers/: Strongly positive
/Other signals/:
*Debuggability*
*Is this feature fully tested by **web-platform-tests*
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*Requires code in //chrome?*
False
*Tracking bug*
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*Estimated milestones*
No milestones specified
*Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status*
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5663795354533888
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