LGTM3. -mike
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 10:37:59 PM UTC+1 Rick Byers wrote: > LGTM2 > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 1:27 PM Domenic Denicola <dome...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 11:24 AM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> *Contact emails* >>> >>> >>> >>> * miketa...@chromium.org <miketa...@chromium.org>, abe...@chromium.org >>> <abe...@chromium.org>, jadekess...@chromium.org <jadekess...@chromium.org> >>> Explainer >>> https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity >>> >>> <https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints#explainer-reducing-user-agent-granularity> >>> >>> Specification https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction >>> <https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction> is the closest thing that >>> specifies Chrome’s UA Reduction plans today. As these changes land in >>> Chromium, the Compat Standard <https://compat.spec.whatwg.org/> will be >>> updated to reflect them (in the newly landed UA String section >>> <https://compat.spec.whatwg.org/#ua-string-section>).* >>> >> >> I want to call out that this is some really great work. For years specs >> have basically said "use an implementation-defined value", but we knew that >> was not sufficient for web compatibility, and it was not useful to web >> developers or implementers. Years ago we started to capture some >> interesting constraints in HTML's definition of navigator compatibility >> mode <https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-navigator-compatibility-mode>, >> but we knew there were many more. >> >> The work Mike has done has started to address this long-standing issue of >> spec tech debt, and it's really great that he's put in the extra work here >> instead of just taking advantage of the spec's historical looseness. >> >> I did a quick review on the spec and found some minor issues and clarity >> improvement suggestions >> <https://github.com/whatwg/compat/issues/created_by/domenic>, but >> overall this is a great foundation and gives me confidence others can both >> follow along with our plans, and implement compatible software based on >> them. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * Summary As previously detailed on the Chromium Blog >>> <https://blog.chromium.org/2021/09/user-agent-reduction-origin-trial-and-dates.html>, >>> >>> we intend to proceed with Phase 4 of the User-Agent Reduction plan. In >>> Phase 4, the MINOR.BUILD.PATCH version numbers are reduced to "0.0.0". For >>> use cases requiring high-entropy full version information, developers are >>> encouraged to migrate to the User Agent Client Hints API >>> <https://web.dev/migrate-to-ua-ch/>, in particular the >>> Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List >>> <https://wicg.github.io/ua-client-hints/#sec-ch-ua-full-version-list> hint. >>> Blink component Blink >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink> TAG >>> review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/640 >>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/640> TAG review status >>> Issues addressed Risks Interoperability and Compatibility Any time you >>> modify the User-Agent string there is a risk of some content somewhere >>> depending on the previous format. There should not be interop risks, as >>> each browser sends its own User-Agent string. But there is a risk that >>> content somewhere is relying on “non-zero” MINOR, BUILD, or PATCH >>> information. My personal view is that the risk is low compared to the rest >>> of the changes to come in later phases. But in order to mitigate the risk >>> of this change, we intend to slowly roll it out via Finch and observe >>> health metrics (i.e., HTTP 4XX and 5XX error codes, etc.) and bug reports >>> from the community. We've surveyed dozens of User-Agent parsing libraries, >>> and as far as we know "0.0.0" will not create a problem syntactically. But >>> the web can get pretty weird in ways we don't anticipate, hence the slow >>> roll-out and incremental path towards User-Agent Reduction. Gecko: >>> Shipped/Shipping. Firefox has frozen (or capped) much of their UA string >>> already. WebKit: Shipped/Shipping. Safari has already frozen everything in >>> their UA string except for version number info. Web developers: Mixed >>> signals. Reactions have ranged from positive to indifferent to negative, >>> from various channels. Debuggability No special DevTools support needed. Is >>> this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>? >>> >>> No Flag name reduce-user-agent Requires code in //chrome? False Tracking >>> bug https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1282229 >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1282229> Launch bug >>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1282238 >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1282238> Estimated >>> milestones We aim to start rollout in M101. We will update this thread once >>> the feature is shipping to 100% of the stable population. 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