On Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 7:37 AM 'Elad Alon' via blink-dev <
blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

> Thanks for approving.
> May this be a gapless ship? This would show consideration to our OT
> partners and their effort.
>

Per a recent policy change, gapless is always allowed without approvals
needed.



> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:58:25 PM UTC+2 Daniel Bratell wrote:
>
>> LGTM3
>>
>> /Daniel
>>
>> *Sent with my Thunderbird*
>>
>> On 2022-10-19 17:55, 'Elad Alon' via blink-dev wrote:
>>
>> (Ack the nit.)
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:55:05 PM UTC+2 yoav...@chromium.org
>> wrote:
>>
>>> LGTM2
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:53:47 PM UTC+2 Chris Harrelson wrote:
>>>
>>>> LGTM1
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 1:39 AM Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK, so we have WPTs covering the currently testable parts of the API,
>>>>> as required by spec and browser tests covering the UA-specific parts. 
>>>>> Makes
>>>>> sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:36 AM Elad Alon <elad...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The main reason for partial WPT coverage is that the API is
>>>>>> formulated with some key MAY-s, in order to accommodate Safari's 
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> media-picker model. The errors should be the same on all platforms, and 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> tested. But whether the focus goes to the captured or capturing page is
>>>>>> left to the UA to decide, and so cannot be effectively tested by WPT.
>>>>>> (Chromium does have browser tests for that.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A strong secondary reason, btw, is the disproportionate difficulty of
>>>>>> testing this API reliably using WPT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Might be worthwhile to file bugs against WPT/TestDriver for issues you
>>>>> ran into, or missing features.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:11:52 AM UTC+2
>>>>>> yoav...@chromium.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:24 PM 'Elad Alon' via blink-dev <
>>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact emails elad...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/conditional-focus/blob/main/README.md
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>> https://w3c.github.io/mediacapture-screen-share/#dom-capturecontroller-setfocusbehavior
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Design docs
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHJRt-ry9hwzFTbPxKrmD0VvtEFEU6lvqsD7k6wwGKM
>>>>>>>> (Note that this reflects the old API shape. There is no substantive
>>>>>>>> difference; the same functionality is simply exposed on a different 
>>>>>>>> surface
>>>>>>>> now.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Extend the getDisplayMedia() API by adding a CaptureController
>>>>>>>> object which can be passed in as a parameter. This object exposes a
>>>>>>>> setFocusBehavior() method. By calling this method, an app can control
>>>>>>>> whether the captured tab/window is focused when capture starts, or 
>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>> the capturing page should retain focus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink
>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/679
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review status Pending
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/697)
>>>>>>>> Jan-Ivar Bruaroey from Mozilla, and Youenn Fablet from Apple, have both
>>>>>>>> collaborated with us closely in shaping the PRs of this API. They have 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> approved merging the PRs into w3c/mediacapture-screen-share. This is
>>>>>>>> implicit support, so I'd consider it POSITIVE even though, as of the 
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> of this writing, the official request for position has not yet been
>>>>>>>> answered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive (
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/73) Jan-Ivar
>>>>>>>> Bruaroey from Mozilla, and Youenn Fablet from Apple, have both 
>>>>>>>> collaborated
>>>>>>>> with us closely in shaping the PRs of this API. They have then approved
>>>>>>>> merging the PRs into w3c/mediacapture-screen-share. This is implicit
>>>>>>>> support, so I'd consider it POSITIVE even though, as of the time of 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> writing, the official request for position has not yet been answered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Nit: please don't record a result unless it was noted explicitly on the
>>>> standards position issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/37) Support from Web
>>>>>>>> developers inside+outside of Google.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ergonomics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Activation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See design-doc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Supported on all Desktop platforms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>> ? No
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any particular reason?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Flag name ConditionalFocus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1215480
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Launch bug
>>>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1214483
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sample links https://wicg.github.io/conditional-focus/demo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>    Expected full-ship milestone: 109
>>>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop last 108 (or up to and including 111 if delays
>>>>>>>> are encountered; already approved
>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/CLmSojRQHoc/m/X-AroW-UAQAJ>
>>>>>>>> .)
>>>>>>>> OriginTrial desktop first 102
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N/A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5646614535340032
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions Intent to prototype:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/lbuqOGx07xY
>>>>>>>> Intent to Experiment:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/I4RE2pbocTg
>>>>>>>> Intent to Extend Experiment:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/CLmSojRQHoc/m/X-AroW-UAQAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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