Now I see, thanks!

Firefox has updated their implementation and is up-to-date.
Safari hasn't done anything yet from what I can tell. I will ping them.

Long live the web platform!

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 7:00 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Sorry I wasn't clear. I mean that WebKit and Gecko have implementations of
> container queries, do they already support these properties? If not, we
> want to ensure they're aware of the spec change and have open bugs tracking
> making updates to their engines to reduce the likely time period for
> inconsistent behavior between browsers especially since there's some web
> compat risk around conditionText.
>
> In general we're looking for signals from the other engines. This is what
> the Safari and Firefox signals portion of the status entry
> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5159369837117440> are for, but yours
> are both blank. In this case it's a tiny change approved by the CSSWG so
> I'm not too worried (hence my LGTM without blocking), but the principle of
> evolving the web together with the other engines still applies.
>
> Thanks,
>    Rick
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM Daniil Sakhapov <sakha...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Rick!
>>
>> Thanks! Not sure I understand what you mean.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:21 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks to be a very low risk update to a brand new feature, LGTM3
>>>
>>> But what do we know about the other implementations with respect to this
>>> change? For any which haven't yet updated, are there bugs tracking it?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:27 AM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LGTM2
>>>>
>>>> On 1/24/23 9:19 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> LGTM1
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Daniil for that httparchive analysis. The second one looking for
>>>> use of the @container rule should include all cases that could matter. 56
>>>> unique matches is a very small number when it comes to httparchive compat
>>>> analysis. I double checked just one of them (botaniska.se, a nice park
>>>> in Gothenburg!) and indeed that usage doesn't even
>>>> involve CSSContainerRule. When we're unable to find even a single case that
>>>> would break, that's as good as it gets for compat risk.
>>>>
>>>> Let's ship it before something starts to depend on the old behavior!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:48 PM Daniil Sakhapov <sakha...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And another query for @container + conditionText. There are no things
>>>>> that can be broken.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ILyBkGLud7fy4kXjlLURELhcMRAPqdEWz8X8J25SfDY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:35 AM Daniil Sakhapov <
>>>>> sakha...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I haven't found any usage on the websites chromestatus gave me.
>>>>>> But looking at WebArchive results
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tSOlf8bN50vmduWvzttKfhqHaPYeIXbVqFe21fFY70s/edit?usp=sharing_eil_m&ts=63ce61e6>
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>> can see that the usage is very small and the update won't change 
>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 6:04 PM Alex Russell <
>>>>>> slightly...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Daniil:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for filing for this change while the feature is still
>>>>>>> low-use; it'll be much more challenging to make this switch later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something that wasn't clear from the use counters you linked was the
>>>>>>> use of the IDL properties vs. the CSS names. Given that it seems like we
>>>>>>> have use-counters for the latter but not the former, it seems 
>>>>>>> reasonable to
>>>>>>> consider CSS usage to be a hard cap on potential use of the JS 
>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be willing to manually inspect some content (say 10-20
>>>>>>> sites) that use the CSS `container-name` and `container-query` 
>>>>>>> attributes
>>>>>>> to look for script access? Presumably it's a fraction that population, 
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> verifying would be helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 8:31:42 AM UTC-8 Daniil Sakhapov
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact emails sakha...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>> https://w3c.github.io/csswg-drafts/css-contain-3/#the-csscontainerrule-interface
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Updates the CSSContainerRule interface to match the specs.
>>>>>>>> Implements containerName and containerQuery, updates conditionText for
>>>>>>>> @container to be up-to-date with specs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>CSS
>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ECSS>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/592
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review status Issues addressed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Activation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Previous conditionText attribute contained only container-query
>>>>>>>> part, but now it's both container-name and container-query. But it 
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> not break a lot of sites due to low current usage as per:
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/css/timeline/popularity/697
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/css/timeline/popularity/699 The
>>>>>>>> real breakage is hard to measure, as it's not possible to track the how
>>>>>>>> result of conditionText is used and the usage of container-name is low
>>>>>>>> compared to the container-type usage. Also, conditionText is readonly, 
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> there are no round-trip issues
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? Yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/css/css-contain/container-queries/at-container-style-serialization.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/css/css-contain/container-queries/at-container-serialization.html
>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/css/css-contain/container-queries/idlharness.html
>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/css/cssom/CSSContainerRule.tentative.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tracking bug https://crbug.com/1393577
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>> DevTrial on desktop 112
>>>>>>>> DevTrial on Android 112
>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5159369837117440
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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