I don't have a draft of the CSP or Permissions Policy spec changes yet.
There won't be any breaking changes for either needed, the change is to a
superset of supported matching options for Permissions Policy.

~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're)


On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 11:22 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> I'm not sure I understand this response. Do you have a draft change to the
> CSP spec posted someplace? Will that update be a breaking change to the
> wildcard support being requested for launch in this thread?
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 6:29:27 AM UTC-7 Ari Chivukula wrote:
>
>> The PR needs to be updated to depend on CSP logic but I don't want to
>> make that change until this expansion of wildcard support is approved and
>> launched with some WPTs. It'll require making changes to the CSP spec
>> itself and it all feels a bit too speculative until the launch in chrome is
>> unblocked.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2023, 4:57 AM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:34 PM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emails
>>>>
>>>> aric...@chromium.org, miketa...@chromium.org, iclell...@chromium.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prior Work
>>>>
>>>> Wildcards in Permissions Policy Origins
>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664>
>>>>
>>>> Specification
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/pull/482
>>>>
>>>
>>> Any blockers for the PR to land?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Background
>>>>
>>>> In M108 Chrome added support for wildcards in permissions policy
>>>> structured like SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/) where
>>>> a valid Origin could be constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT (e.g.,
>>>> https://foo.com/). This required that the HOST was at least eTLD+1 (a
>>>> registrable domain). This meant that https://*.bar.foo.com/ works but
>>>> https://*.com/ won’t (if you wanted to allow all domains to use the
>>>> feature, you had to delegate to *). Wildcards in the scheme and port
>>>> section were unsupported and https://*.foo.com/ did not delegate to
>>>> https://foo.com/.
>>>>
>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like:
>>>>
>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "
>>>> https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";)
>>>>
>>>> In M108 and later, it could look like:
>>>>
>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com";
>>>> "https://*.foo.com";)
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Subdomain wildcards in allowlists provided some valuable flexibility,
>>>> but differed from existing wildcard parsers and required novel code and
>>>> spec work. This intent will reduce that overhead by reusing parts of the
>>>> existing Content Security Policy spec
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#framework-directive-source-list> and
>>>> permitting ‘scheme + wildcard domain’ and ‘wildcard port’ in the allowlist.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, this intent would adopt the definition of host-source
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#grammardef-host-source> and scheme-source
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#grammardef-scheme-source> instead of origin
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/permissions-policy/#allowlists> in the
>>>> Allowlist definition while requiring that the path-part
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#grammardef-path-part> is empty (as
>>>> Permissions Policies apply to matching origins). This would change three
>>>> things from the prior wildcard implementation (all of which expand the
>>>> range of allowed wildcards and none of which add new restrictions):
>>>>
>>>> (1) Removing the eTLD+1 requirement for subdomain wildcards
>>>>
>>>> Previously, you could not have a subdomain wildcard like “https://*.com”
>>>> but could have one like “https://*.example.com”.
>>>>
>>>> Now, you can have subdomain wildcards both like “https://*.com” and
>>>> “https://*.example.com”.
>>>>
>>>> (2) Allowing scheme restrictions on wildcard domains.
>>>>
>>>> Previously, you could allow “*” but not restrict to a specific scheme
>>>> like “https://*” or “https:”.
>>>>
>>>> Now, you can still allow “*” but have the option of delegating to just
>>>> a specific scheme like “https://*” or “https:” (the behavior of these
>>>> is identical).
>>>>
>>>> (3) Allowing port wildcards.
>>>>
>>>> Previously you could delegate to the default https port like “
>>>> https://example.com” or “https://example.com:443” (the behavior of
>>>> these is identical), but there was no way to explicitly delegate to all
>>>> ports like “https://example.com:*”.
>>>>
>>>> Now, you can still delegate to “https://example.com” or
>>>> “https://example.com:443” but delegation is also permitted to a
>>>> wildcard port like “https://example.com:*”.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blink component
>>>>
>>>> Blink>PermissionsAPI
>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Motivation
>>>>
>>>> The Permissions Policy specification
>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/> “defines a
>>>> mechanism that allows developers to selectively enable and disable use of
>>>> various browser features and APIs.” One capability of this mechanism allows
>>>> features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated origins (e.g.,
>>>> https://foo.com/). This mechanism is not flexible enough for the
>>>> design of some CDNs, which deliver content via an origin that might be
>>>> hosted on one of several hundred possible subdomains. Rather than designing
>>>> a novel wildcard system we should reuse an existing one
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/#framework-directive-source-list> to reduce
>>>> developer overhead and promote code/spec component reuse.
>>>>
>>>> There has not been a prior discussion on specifically which new types
>>>> of wildcards should be added when we switched to using the CSP parser, so
>>>> that discussion should be resolved in the approval of this intent and in
>>>> the interoperability/TAG issues below.
>>>>
>>>> TAG review
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765
>>>>
>>>> Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> Depending on their user base, sites may want to entertain a transition
>>>> period for older Chromium clients where they enumerate all desired origins
>>>> for some versions and use wildcards for others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability
>>>>
>>>> We would be the first to implement if approved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gecko: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/760
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WebKit: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not necessarily a blocker to shipping IMO, but Anne raised a few
>>> reasonably-looking issues on CSP related to this feature's integration with
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?
>>>>
>>>> No, but it will be.
>>>>
>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>
>>>> https://crbug.com/1418009
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664
>>>>
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