On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:03:35 AM UTC-7 mike...@chromium.org wrote:


On 10/4/23 7:43 PM, 'Sahir Vellani' via blink-dev wrote:

Contact emails 
gerc...@microsoft.com, sahir....@microsoft.com

Explainer 
https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/PointerEventDeviceId/explainer.md

Specification 
https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/PointerEventDeviceId/explainer.md

Summary 

As devices with advanced pen input capabilities are becoming increasingly 
prevalent, it is important that the web platform continues to evolve to 
fully support these advanced features in order to unlock rich experiences 
for both end users and developers. One such advancement is the ability for 
a device's digitizer to recognize more than one pen device interacting with 
it simultaneously. This feature is an extension to the PointerEvent 
interface to include a new attribute, deviceId, that represents a 
session-persistent, document isolated, unique identifier that a developer 
can reliably use to identify individual pens interacting with the page.


Blink component 
Blink>Input 
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EInput>

TAG review 
https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/880

TAG review status 
Pending. TAG review has been pending for 2 months.

Risks 


Interoperability and Compatibility 


*Gecko*: No signal (
https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/715)

*WebKit*: No signal (
https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/102)

*Web developers*: No signals

*Other signals*:

WebView application risks 

*Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that 
it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?*

None


Debuggability 


Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? 
No

Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
? 
No. However, there are web tests in Chromium that test PointerEventInit 
with this feature.

Flag name on chrome://flags 
PointerEventDeviceId

Finch feature name 


Non-finch justification 
Edge origin trials successfully underway.

Any Origin Trial feedback you can share?


Absolutely, the feature has been working well. Our partners (Microsoft 
Whiteboard) have enabled the feature that is dependent on this API for 
their general audience! We did not receive any constructive feedback. This 
API is being used by them on Microsoft Surface Hub devices, which support 
multi-pen inking.


Requires code in //chrome? 
False

Measurement 
PointerEventDeviceId use counter implemented.

Availability expectation 
Initially available on Chromium browsers on Windows.

Out of curiosity, are there limitations on other platforms that prevent 
supporting this feature?


We haven't been able to get our hands on hardware that supports other 
platforms in addition to multi pen inking in order to implement and 
appropriately test this feature. We welcome any sponsors for implementing 
and testing this, especially on Linux/Android.


Adoption expectation 
Feature is used by specific partner(s) to provide functionality immediately 
upon launch.

Adoption plan 
This feature has been through origin trials on Edge. It is being used by 
partners that provide features on devices with multi pen support.

Non-OSS dependencies 

*Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium open 
source repository and its open-source dependencies to function?*
Operating system API's are used to obtain the device id, and are necessary 
for this feature to function. Please see the security questionnaire in the 
TAG review on security and privacy concerns related to the use of these 
APIs.

Estimated milestones 
Shipping on desktop
120


Anticipated spec changes 

*Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or 
interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues 
in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may 
introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of 
the API in a non-backward-compatible way).*
WICG Proposal: https://github.com/WICG/proposals/issues/101 No web 
compat/interop risk.

Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status 
https://chromestatus.com/feature/5114132234240000

Links to previous Intent discussions 
Intent to prototype: 
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/SA0PR00MB1033E5DE0BDE42239E647E9AFB189%40SA0PR00MB1033.namprd00.prod.outlook.com

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