Hi again Joey,

Can you bump this thread when you'd like to ship it?

Best regards,
Philip

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 7:38 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:

> > On the level of interest, there was no reaction on
> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046 after you asked. Is there
> other communication that makes you relatively sure the interest is there?
>
> I should have filed standards positions first. I have done so now:
> - https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/263
> - https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/901
>
> > It sounds like the idea is to prove this web compatible by shipping it,
> before updating the spec
>
> I intend to get positive signals from Gecko and WebKit first before
> actually shipping this.
> I already have an HTML spec PR open, so the spec could be updated at any
> time.
>
> There is a risk for web compatibility, although I was convinced that this
> should just improve the consistency of the event timing.
> If there is significant breakage, I will disable this change via finch and
> revert the spec changes.
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 4:12 AM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> It sounds like the idea is to prove this web compatible by shipping it,
>> before updating the spec. On the level of interest, there was no reaction
>> on https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046 after you asked. Is there
>> other communication that makes you relatively sure the interest is there?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:34 AM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emailsjar...@chromium.org
>>>
>>> Explainerhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046
>>>
>>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9775
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> The toggle events for the popover attribute and the details element, as
>>> well as the close event for dialog elements, currently post a task to the
>>> DOM manipulation task source to fire these events asynchronously. This
>>> means that the event could fire before or after the next render, which
>>> could lead to flaky rendering for one frame. By using microtasks instead,
>>> the event will always fire before the next render. This was suggested in
>>> this HTML spec issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046
>>>
>>>
>>> Blink componentBlink>DOM
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EDOM>
>>>
>>> TAG reviewThis is a very small change so I'm not making a TAG review.
>>>
>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> If websites are relying on the slower event timing somehow, then we
>>> could run into problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gecko*: Positive?
>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046#issuecomment-1724509340
>>>
>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>
>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>
>>> *Other signals*:
>>>
>>> WebView application risks
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?Yes
>>>
>>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone
>>>
>>> Finch feature nameNone
>>>
>>> Non-finch justification
>>>
>>> I am not interested in any metrics changes for this feature, it should
>>> just make the behavior more consistent for web developers. Should it prove
>>> to have issues, I can disable it with a finch killswitch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>
>>> Adoption expectationIf we ship this without breaking websites, then I
>>> think the other browsers will feel interested in implementing this as well.
>>>
>>> Adoption planThis change modifies several WPTs which the other browsers
>>> are likely watching, which will help encourage them to implement this as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> No milestones specified
>>>
>>>
>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>
>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>> None
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5123249231101952
>>>
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>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
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