> Can you bump this thread when you'd like to ship it?

Sure thing. It looks like more discussion about the behavior has started in
the whatwg issue, so I'll wait for everything to be fully settled.
This feature is not a high priority for me at the moment.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 9:01 AM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> Hi again Joey,
>
> Can you bump this thread when you'd like to ship it?
>
> Best regards,
> Philip
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 7:38 PM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> > On the level of interest, there was no reaction on
>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046 after you asked. Is there
>> other communication that makes you relatively sure the interest is there?
>>
>> I should have filed standards positions first. I have done so now:
>> - https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/263
>> - https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/901
>>
>> > It sounds like the idea is to prove this web compatible by shipping it,
>> before updating the spec
>>
>> I intend to get positive signals from Gecko and WebKit first before
>> actually shipping this.
>> I already have an HTML spec PR open, so the spec could be updated at any
>> time.
>>
>> There is a risk for web compatibility, although I was convinced that this
>> should just improve the consistency of the event timing.
>> If there is significant breakage, I will disable this change via finch
>> and revert the spec changes.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 4:12 AM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It sounds like the idea is to prove this web compatible by shipping it,
>>> before updating the spec. On the level of interest, there was no reaction
>>> on https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046 after you asked. Is there
>>> other communication that makes you relatively sure the interest is there?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:34 AM Joey Arhar <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emailsjar...@chromium.org
>>>>
>>>> Explainerhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046
>>>>
>>>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9775
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> The toggle events for the popover attribute and the details element, as
>>>> well as the close event for dialog elements, currently post a task to the
>>>> DOM manipulation task source to fire these events asynchronously. This
>>>> means that the event could fire before or after the next render, which
>>>> could lead to flaky rendering for one frame. By using microtasks instead,
>>>> the event will always fire before the next render. This was suggested in
>>>> this HTML spec issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blink componentBlink>DOM
>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EDOM>
>>>>
>>>> TAG reviewThis is a very small change so I'm not making a TAG review.
>>>>
>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> If websites are relying on the slower event timing somehow, then we
>>>> could run into problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gecko*: Positive?
>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9046#issuecomment-1724509340
>>>>
>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>
>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>>
>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>
>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>
>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ?Yes
>>>>
>>>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone
>>>>
>>>> Finch feature nameNone
>>>>
>>>> Non-finch justification
>>>>
>>>> I am not interested in any metrics changes for this feature, it should
>>>> just make the behavior more consistent for web developers. Should it prove
>>>> to have issues, I can disable it with a finch killswitch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>>
>>>> Adoption expectationIf we ship this without breaking websites, then I
>>>> think the other browsers will feel interested in implementing this as well.
>>>>
>>>> Adoption planThis change modifies several WPTs which the other
>>>> browsers are likely watching, which will help encourage them to implement
>>>> this as well.
>>>>
>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>
>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>
>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5123249231101952
>>>>
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