Hi Paul,

On 10/19/23 7:01 PM, Paul Jensen wrote:


        Contact emails

pauljen...@chromium.org


        Explainer

clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups(): https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/829 <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/829>

interest group limit changes: https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/839 <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/839>

kAnonStatus: https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/714 <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/714>


        Specification

clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups(): https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/844 <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/844>

interest group limit changes: https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/859 <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/859>

kAnonStatus: https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/858 <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/858>

Noting that 2 of these PRs haven't landed yet.


        Summary

clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups():

It can be helpful to leave all interest groups (IGs) that were joined on a particular top-frame origin (TFO). A site could keep track, in first-party state, of IGs they’ve joined on a particular TFO and leave each via the Protected Audience’s existing leaveAdInterestGroup() API, but there are ways the actual and presumed IG states could diverge. This feature adds a new API, clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups(), to explicitly leave all IGs joined on the calling TFO. This new API essentially resets the browser’s IG store for the calling TFO which can be useful to ensure the browser’s state is kept up to date and in sync with the IG owner’s expectations and prevent this divergence and not require the IG owners to keep track redundantly.

This comment was really helpful for me to understand this change: https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/475#issuecomment-1720258511

interest group limit changes:

Chrome’s Protected Audience implementation limits the number of IGs that one IG owner can place the user into.  This limit originally served to limit user device storage resource usage and user device compute resources during auctions. We found better, more accurate, and less biased ways to accomplish both of these goals without limiting the number of IGs that one owner can place the user into, namely switching to a size limit on all IGs <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/402#issuecomment-1488767847>and switching to a timeout on all IGs <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/328>. The limit on the number of IGs has again become a problem with the advent of negative targeting IGs <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/FLEDGE.md#621-negative-interest-groups>that don’t use significant storage or compute resources. We’re proposing raising the current limit to 2000 normal IGs and 20000 negative IGs.

I see that these limits are defined as implementation-specific <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/859/commits/8c0969ada20c8a64920ed5b3c36a7abdb5a006b8>. If another browser were to implement Protected Audience, what are the practical implications for different IG limits between browsers? Would sites need to write browser-specific code?

kAnonStatus:

To help adtechs plan and measure in preparation for k-anonymity enforcement in Protected Audiences, the kAnonStatus API surfaces whether an ad is k-anonymous to event-level win reporting, prior to enforcing k-anonymity requirements.  This lets adtechs better understand how often their ads will meet the k-anonymity requirements.



        Blink component

Blink>InterestGroups <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EInterestGroups>


        TAG review

The parent proposal, Protected Audience, is still pending: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/723 <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/723>


        TAG review status

Pending


        Risks


        Interoperability and Compatibility

clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups() and kAnonStatus are new additional APIs so we do not expect them to cause compatibility breakage.  The interest group limit changes are increases from previous limits, so we do not expect them to cause compatibility breakage.


Gecko & WebKit: No signal on parent proposal, Protected Audience.  Asked in the Mozilla forumhere <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/770>, and in the Webkit forum here <https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/158>.


Web developers:

clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups() was requested and discussed here <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/475>and discussed on a WICG Protected Audience call with notes here <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/meetings/2023-06-21-FLEDGE-call-minutes.md#---leave-all-igs-for-a-given-domain-475-gianni-campion>.

Interest group limit changes were requested and discussed here <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/402>and here <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/361>and here <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/798>.

kAnonStatus is very important for k-anonymity planning and adoption which has been discussed many  times in the context of Protected Audience. Here’s <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/121>an old ask for similar behavior.




        Debuggability

Calls to clearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups() can be debugged in DevTools like other API calls, and also show up in the DevTools Application Storage Interest Group panel.

kAnonStatus is visible from DevTools debugging of reportWin() scripts.


        Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms
        (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?

It will be supported on all platforms that support Protected Audience, so all but WebView.


        Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
        
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?

We plan to land web-platform-tests for all three features shortly.


        Flag name on chrome://flags

None


        Finch feature name

FledgeClearOriginJoinedAdInterestGroups, FledgePassKAnonStatusToReportWin, InterestGroupStorageMaxGroupsPerOwner


        Requires code in //chrome?

False


        Estimated milestones

Shipping on desktop and Android in M119.


        Anticipated spec changes

None related to these features.


        Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

https://chromestatus.com/feature/6751281490427904 <https://chromestatus.com/feature/6751281490427904>


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