Hi Dominik,

Thanks for your add-up! And Yes, we can align with other browsers for the time 
being.

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ChangSeok

> On May 21, 2024, at 6:13 AM, Dominik Röttsches <dr...@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Big thanks ChangSeok for implementing this and pushing for this feature.
> 
> I can say a few things about the open issues
>  - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6384
> 
> font-size-adjust relies on a font metric reference point, for example, the 
> x-height, cap-height, etc. in order to scale font sizes to match on a scaled 
> metric.
> Strictly speaking in the OpenType font spec, some metrics that are spec'ed 
> for font-size-adjust are optional in the font file. They might not exist in 
> the font file.
> The discussion in this issue revolves around what to do when the metric does 
> not exist: There are mainly two alternatives:
> a) don't adjust anything, b) adjust to a heuristic that tries to approximate 
> the missing value. 
> 
> From an interop point of view: a) is interoperable, b) is not interoperable 
> without spec changes in the CSS values spec to tighten the heuristics. 
> For Interop 2024, I think we can and should only test and consider the happy 
> path, in which the font has the metrics. 
> 
> The missing metrics situation can be considered a somewhat rare edge case.
>  
> - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10292
> 
> This discussion is about the computed style of font-size-adjust and whether 
> that should "leak" actual values that come from the font files. If I am not 
> mistaken, FF and Safari are currently aligned on doing that and making the 
> computed style show values from the font files, in order to inherit a 
> meaningful numerical value in the cascade. There are arguments for why this 
> is the right approach from a functionality point of view. Whether it's the 
> right approach from a CSS inheritance / logical point of view is perhaps the 
> question. I am not sure about WPT test coverage at the moment (it's likely 
> small), but for the time being I believe we can align with Safari and FF. 
> ChangSeok, do you agree?
> 
> Dominik
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 3:43 PM Philip Jägenstedt <foo...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Hi ChangSeok,
> 
> Thank you for working on this, it's great to see both more powerful 
> typography control, and progress on Interop 2024.
> 
> Can you say something about the remaining failures in WPT? 
> font-size-adjust-012.html font-size-adjust-013.html both look like minor 
> differences, but it seems like it only happens on Linux (Chrome) and not 
> Windows (Edge)?
> 
> There are also 3 failing subtests in font-size-adjust-computed.html, does 
> that depend on resolving one of the spec issues? Or can we match what Firefox 
> and Safari do and pass the tests without waiting for spec changes?
> 
> Best regards,
> Philip
> 
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 5:01 PM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:02 AM ChangSeok Oh <changs...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Contact emails
> changseok...@bytedance.com, changs...@chromium.org
> 
> Explainer
> None
> 
> Specification
> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-fonts-5/#font-size-adjust-prop
> 
> Summary
> The font-size-adjust CSS property enhances readability consistency by 
> adjusting font size based on lowercase letter height rather than uppercase. 
> Additionally, the newly introduced two-value syntax for font-size-adjust in 
> the font module level 5 enables web designers to specify a font metric for 
> size adjustment. This feature is one of focus areas for Interop 2024.
> 
> Blink component
> Blink>CSS, Blink>Fonts
> 
> TAG review
> None
> 
> TAG review status
> Not applicable
> 
> Risks
> Interoperability and Compatibility
> Gecko and WebKit have shipped this feature, and there is no major 
> interoperability risk. However, certain aspects are still being discussed 
> regarding interoperability concerns. [1, 2].
> [1] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6384 [2] 
> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10292
> 
> Gecko: Shipped/Shipping (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1711479)
> 
> WebKit: Shipped/Shipping (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=254191)
> 
> Web developers: No signals
> 
> Other signals:
> 
> WebView application risks
> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that it 
> has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
> None
> 
> Debuggability
> N/A
> 
> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
> Yes. Windows experiences a minor sub-pixel mismatching issue in one wpt test, 
> but it doesn't affect usability.
> 
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?
> Yes
> https://wpt.fyi/results/css/css-fonts?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&view=interop&q=label%3Ainterop-2024-font-size-adjust
> 
> Flag name on chrome://flags
> enable-experimental-web-platform-features
> 
> Finch feature name
> CSSFontSizeAdjust
> 
> Requires code in //chrome?
> False
> 
> Tracking bug
> - https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40081245
> - https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40186237
> 
> Measurement
> - https://chromestatus.com/metrics/css/timeline/popularity/465
> - https://caniuse.com/font-size-adjust
> 
> Availability expectation
> Both the Gecko and WebKit communities have implemented this feature, and 
> corresponding tests are already included in the Web Platform Tests (WPT).
> 
> Adoption expectation
> Firefox and WebKit variant browsers have embraced this feature.
> 
> Adoption plan
> Blink is shipping this feature.
> 
> Non-OSS dependencies
> Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium open source 
> repository and its open-source dependencies to function?
> None
> 
> Sample links
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/font-size-adjust
> 
> Estimated milestones
> Shipping on desktop
> 127
> Shipping on Android
> 127
> Shipping on WebView
> 127
> 
> Anticipated spec changes
> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or 
> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues in 
> the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may introduce web 
> compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of the API in a 
> non-backward-compatible way).
> 
> Some concerns related to interoperability are still under discussion.
> - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/6384
> - https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/10292
> 
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
> - https://chromestatus.com/feature/5720910061371392
> - https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170570175447040
> 
> Do you mind starting the various reviews (including API Owners) in the 
> chromestatus entry?:
> 
> <chips.png>
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Links to previous Intent discussions
> - Intent to prototype font-size-adjust: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/lqd_g6Z6fH4/m/qZyljJmg6oQJ
> - Intent to prototype the two value syntax: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/2FufB-ckycw/m/mj1I3iUECAAJ
> 
> Best,
> 
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