Thanks Mike. Your explanation makes sense and we are good with 6 milestones to start. We expect the deprecation trial period to be longer to give web users enough time to adjust, but can request a renewal when the time comes.
I have updated the Origin Trial period to start on 127 and end on 133. On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 7:00:52 PM UTC-7 Mike Taylor wrote: > Thanks Di - this is a useful clarification. > > You can request up to 6 milestones for a Deprecation Trial, and only need > a single LGTM. Renewals are possible, with sufficient justification. > > That said, if you do think that 9 milestones is sufficient for your needs > - that is also possible, but will require 3 LGTMs. If that is the route you > would like to propose, can your let us know why you think 9 milestones is > sufficient, and wouldn't require a renewal? What outreach or comms plans do > you have in place to ensure that the previously broken sites will be ready > for this change in ~9 months? > > Either way, please let us know how many (and which) milestonesyou are > requesting for the deprecation trial. > > thanks! > Mike > On 5/13/24 2:27 PM, Di Zhang wrote: > > Sorry for missing information! I haven’t created a request for a > Deprecation Trial before, which is what I intended this to be, and I missed > some parts of the process. The chromestatus is located here, which is for > the overall KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature: > https://chromestatus.com/feature/5231964663578624. The origin trial > section details why we are requesting a Deprecation trial for this feature, > which I’ve copied below. I believe this answers the questions I’ve received > here, but please let me know if anything else is missing! > > Summary > > The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the focusability of a > scroll container. This feature includes the following changes: > > - > > Scrollers are click-focusable and programmatically-focusable by > default. > - > > Scrollers without focusable children are keyboard-focusable by default. > > This is an important improvement to help make scrollers and contents > within scrollers more accessible to all users. > > We attempted to ship the above changes, and found that a limited number of > sites had broken expectations around some of their components. As a result, > we had to unship the feature to avoid this breakage. However, given the > benefits mentioned above, we’d like to ship this feature again. > To allow more time for the affected sites to migrate their components, we > are requesting a Deprecation Trial. This trial (called > “KeyboardFocusableScrollersOptOut”), when enabled, will disable the > KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. To give adequate time, we’d like to let > this deprecation trial run for 9 months. It might be ok to limit this to > 6-months, but would like the option to extend the depreciation period if > needed. > > On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 12:38:47 PM UTC-7 Vladimir Levin wrote: > >> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:18 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Is there a chromestatus entry associated with this intent? There's a lot >>> of information missing from this Intent (see >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/LwgSKPBivuM/m/0dRsXWhBAgAJ >>> >>> as what is typical) - could you reply with the missing info? >>> >>> (Did you use ChromeStatus to generate the email?) >>> >>> Also note that origin trials can only run for 6 milestones initially >>> (see https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#origin-trials) >>> - or are you requesting a deprecation trial? >>> >> FWIW, according to >> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial, >> deprecation trials also only run for up to 6 milestones before extensions >> >> >>> On 5/10/24 12:36 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >>> >>> Contact emails >>> >>> dizha...@chromium.org >>> >>> dom-...@google.com >>> >>> *Experiment Goals*The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the >>> focusability of a a scroll container. This is an important improvement to >>> help make scrollers and contents within scrollers more accessible to all >>> users. The goal of this experiment is to collect feedback on this >>> change from users who might depend on the previous behavior (when a >>> scroller is not focusable by default) and help them adapt to the new >>> behavior which will ship in M126. Sites can use this Origin Trial to opt >>> out of the KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. >>> *Experiment Risks*This experiment is to allow users to opt-out of the >>> feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers. There is no risk to loss access to any >>> important API or other functionality. >>> *Ongoing Constraints*None >>> >>> >>> OT desktop start126OT desktop end135OT Android start126OT Android end135OT >>> WebView startN/AOT WebView endN/A >>> >>> >>> *Note: *The Intent to Ship for Keyboard Focusable Scrollers: >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jzMA5vUqNDs/m/VbhNdHgQAgAJ >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c12e3f31-bd5d-4666-ab2b-10db54f26c74n%40chromium.org >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c12e3f31-bd5d-4666-ab2b-10db54f26c74n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/d7825eb3-36bf-4755-a466-e909dfc20530%40chromium.org >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/d7825eb3-36bf-4755-a466-e909dfc20530%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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