Hey folks, A few questions from today's API OWNERS:
- Are you investigating a generic action button type, the way we've added one for Notifications <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/notification/actions>? - If you have investigated that, would this feature be better as a custom user/developer action? - Have you asked the TAG about consistency w/ Notification Actions for this design? and, most importantly... - Has there been developer feedback that supports this, either from OT or from community feedback more generally? Best, Alex On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 1:28:03 PM UTC-7 Jiaming Cheng wrote: > Updated the subject of this thread. > > Key links: > ChromeStatus: > https://chromestatus.com/feature/4749278882824192?gate=4775000754618368 > TAG: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/957 > Mozilla: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1026 > Webkit: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/350 > > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 1:13 PM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 1:10 PM Jiaming Cheng <jiami...@google.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> We are looking to ship this feature to Stable. We have reused an >>> existing chromestatus ( >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4749278882824192?gate=4775000754618368) >>> and updated almost every section, including filling all the "Prepare to >>> Ship" section. This email was automatically generated by the "API Owners >>> Review" step in that section after each individual section was approved. I >>> have quoted the previous email thread in this email for additional context. >>> >> >> Ok. Please then start a new thread (or reply with a change of subject) to >> "Intent to ship: Skip Ad in Picture-in-Picture window" >> >> >>> >>> If you have any further questions or concerns, please let us know. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jiaming >>> >>> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:29 PM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Are you looking to ship this feature or just experiment? If you're >>>> looking to ship please send a new email with a corrected subject and >>>> contents, and request API owners review on chromestatus.com. >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 7:43 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I went ahead and marked the review as started on chromestatus.com. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 7:36 AM Daniel Bratell <brat...@sarasas.se> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't show up in the API Owner UI/ToDo list and I >>>>>> can't directly see how to make it appear. jrobbins, is there anything >>>>>> strange with this one? It is very old so it might be different from >>>>>> anything done the last couple of years. >>>>>> >>>>>> /Daniel >>>>>> On 2024-05-17 22:39, 'Jiaming Cheng' via blink-dev wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi team, >>>>>> >>>>>> This feature was initially proposed and implemented 4 years ago but >>>>>> remained disabled due to a lack of practical use cases. Given our >>>>>> team's (chromeOS UI team) plan to use this SkipAd action in our upcoming >>>>>> project, we are now resending this intent email for LGTMs. Please let me >>>>>> know if you have any questions :] >>>>>> >>>>>> TAG: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/957 >>>>>> Mozilla: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1026 >>>>>> Webkit: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/350 >>>>>> >>>>>> Below are the auto generated intent content: >>>>>> Contact emailsfbeauf...@chromium.org, mlamo...@chromium.org, >>>>>> jiami...@chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> ExplainerNone >>>>>> >>>>>> Specificationhttps://wicg.github.io/picture-in-picture/#media-session >>>>>> >>>>>> Design docs >>>>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2019/02/chrome-73-media-updates#skipad >>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/mediasession/pull/203 >>>>>> >>>>>> Summary >>>>>> >>>>>> Support the SkipAd media session action. This skipad action allows >>>>>> Chrome to show a button in the system media controls or in the PiP >>>>>> window. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blink componentBlink>Media>PictureInPicture >>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMedia%3EPictureInPicture> >>>>>> >>>>>> TAG review: >>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/957 >>>>>> >>>>>> TAG review statusPending >>>>>> >>>>>> Chromium Trial NameSkipAd >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to origin trial feedback summary >>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/picture-in-picture/issues >>>>>> >>>>>> Origin Trial documentation link >>>>>> https://wicg.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-skipad >>>>>> >>>>>> Risks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>> >>>>>> None >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Gecko*: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1026 >>>>>> >>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive ( >>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/mediasession/pull/203#issuecomment-432529816) >>>>>> And a new one created: >>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/350 >>>>>> >>>>>> *Web developers*: Positive >>>>>> >>>>>> *Other signals*: >>>>>> >>>>>> WebView application risks >>>>>> >>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such >>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >>>>>> >>>>>> None >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>> >>>>>> None >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?No >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>> ?No >>>>>> >>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone >>>>>> >>>>>> Finch feature nameNone >>>>>> >>>>>> Non-finch justificationNone >>>>>> >>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?False >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=910436 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sample links >>>>>> https://googlechrome.github.io/samples/picture-in-picture/skip-ad.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>> Shipping on desktop >>>>>> 127 >>>>>> Origin trial desktop first >>>>>> 73 >>>>>> Origin trial desktop last >>>>>> 74 >>>>>> >>>>>> Anticipated spec changes >>>>>> >>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat >>>>>> or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github >>>>>> issues in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution >>>>>> may >>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure >>>>>> of >>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way). >>>>>> None >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4749278882824192?gate=4775000754618368 >>>>>> >>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to Experiment: >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/l6sW0G4jzhE >>>>>> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 2:08:11 AM UTC-8 Yoav Weiss wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Still LGTM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 9:51 PM François Beaufort < >>>>>>> beaufort...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After more thoughts, we'd like to extend the original trial to >>>>>>>> expire when M75 Stable is cut, instead of M74 Stable cut. >>>>>>>> Note that the origin trial didn't start yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 2:24:52 PM UTC+1, Yoav Weiss >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LGTM to experiment >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 8:40 PM François Beaufort < >>>>>>>>> beaufort...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> fbea...@chromium.org, mlam...@chromium.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Explainer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/mediasession/pull/203 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Design doc/Spec >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://wicg.github.io/mediasession/#dom-mediasessionaction-skipad >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Show a “Skip Ad” button in Picture-in-Picture window that >>>>>>>>>> websites can be notified when user interact with. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Motivation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Video advertisement model usually consist of pre-roll ads. >>>>>>>>>> Content providers often provide the ability to skip the ad after a >>>>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>>>> seconds. The Picture-in-Picture window being not interactive, users >>>>>>>>>> watching a video in Picture-in-Picture can’t do this today. This >>>>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>>>> will allow websites to offer this experience also in the >>>>>>>>>> Picture-in-Picture >>>>>>>>>> window. This is one of the most common feature requests around >>>>>>>>>> Picture-in-Picture. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Risks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Safari has shipped a vendor-prefixed API for Picture-in-Picture >>>>>>>>>> and we’re working >>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/picture-in-picture/pull/69#issuecomment-405394446> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> with them on the integration of the Media Session in >>>>>>>>>> Picture-in-Picture. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Edge: Public support >>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/picture-in-picture/pull/69#issuecomment-432516966> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Firefox: No signals >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Safari: Public support >>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/mediasession/pull/203#issuecomment-432529816> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Web / Framework developers: Positive >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Activation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Web developers will be able to simply set/unset a media session >>>>>>>>>> action handler for “Skip Ad” to control the visibility of the button >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> Picture-in-Picture window. Developer documentation will cover >>>>>>>>>> this feature as we did before at >>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/02/media-session. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Goals for experimentation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gather feedback about the shape of the API >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Validate that the API provides sufficient functionality for >>>>>>>>>> content providers using it to deliver user value. This will be >>>>>>>>>> measured by: >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> content providers that join the origin trial and choose to >>>>>>>>>> share their feedback >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> watch time that occurs in Picture in Picture mode >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Experimental timeline >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Starts around M73 Beta release, 2019-02-07 >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Expires when M74 Stable is cut, around 2019-04-16 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any risks when the experiment finishes? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No significant risks - content providers will feature detect and >>>>>>>>>> fall back to their current behavior when we disable the origin trial. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ongoing technical constraints >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms >>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The feature will be supported on all platforms that currently >>>>>>>>>> support the Picture-in-Picture API. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the feature dashboard >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.chromestatus.com/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/4749278882824192 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/b8a46914-72f6-4bc2-a5ba-d10db89ce6f0%40chromium.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/b8a46914-72f6-4bc2-a5ba-d10db89ce6f0%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/466b0823-d33b-4d3b-a825-53955ca2a5ef%40chromium.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/466b0823-d33b-4d3b-a825-53955ca2a5ef%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/ad00b08f-9135-4d9c-add6-92d84bc14d4bn%40chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/ad00b08f-9135-4d9c-add6-92d84bc14d4bn%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/8b8baa0d-001b-48c3-bc21-b11240d449c9%40sarasas.se >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/8b8baa0d-001b-48c3-bc21-b11240d449c9%40sarasas.se?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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