To be honest, I didn't feel it was necessary given that the specification was already shipped in Safari and on Quest (which admittedly is a Chromium fork), and my understanding was that Mozilla was not making active investments into any WebXR efforts. However, I've gone ahead and filed a standards position request for mozilla here: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1070
And to head off any future request, I've also filed the WebKit one, though I assume it's mainly a formality given that it's shipping on the Apple Vision Pro: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/395 On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 3:56 PM Daniel Clark <dan...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Any reason not to request a Gecko position on this? Per > https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#webxr they’re Positive on > WebXR in general but I don’t think that necessarily implies support for the > modules like this one, so it might be good to ask about this specifically. > > Thanks, > Dan > > From: Alex Cooper <alcoo...@chromium.org> > Date: Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 3:26 PM > To: Rik Cabanier <caban...@gmail.com> > Cc: blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org> > Subject: Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: WebXr hand input module - Level 1 > > You don't often get email from alcoo...@chromium.org. Learn why this is > important <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> > Thanks Rik, > > Good catch! The actual impl here is fairly old and I assumed this was > something the underlying API already handled. My recent work on the feature > has largely been integrating with our permissions framework and the launch > process. This CL > <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5857347> > addresses the issue. I think it should land in time for M130, but if not, I > won't enable the feature until it does land. > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 1:40 PM Rik Cabanier <caban...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Awesome to hear to see this shipping on Chrome! >> Quest browser has supported this API for close to 4 years and it's used >> by many developers and supported by all WebXR frameworks. >> >> Does your implementation ensure that the hand joints are not matched to >> the user? >> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 11:35 AM 'Alex Cooper' via blink-dev < >> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: >> >>> Contact emails alcoo...@chromium.org >>> >>> Explainer >>> https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-hand-input/blob/main/explainer.md >>> >>> Specification https://immersive-web.github.io/webxr-hand-input >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> Exposes hand joint data on XrInputSources for use during a WebXr >>> session. This allows developers to have more fine grained interactions >>> during WebXr sessions. >>> >>> >>> Blink component Blink>WebXR >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EWebXR> >>> >>> TAG review https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/568 >>> >>> TAG review status Issues addressed >>> >>> Risks >>> >>> >>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>> >>> None >>> >>> >>> *Gecko*: No signal >>> >>> *WebKit*: Shipped/Shipping ( >>> https://webkit.org/blog/15443/news-from-wwdc24-webkit-in-safari-18-beta) >>> >>> *Web developers*: Strongly positive >>> >>> *Other signals*: Shipped on Meta Quest, Initially added to Chrome for >>> HoloLens support >>> >>> WebView application risks >>> >>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such >>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >>> >>> None >>> >>> >>> Debuggability >>> >>> None >>> >>> >>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, >>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No >>> >>> WebXR is only supported on Windows and Android (not WebView) >>> >>> >>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>> ? No >>> >>> API shape is relatively simple consisting largely of the enum and a >>> simple idl to get a "joint space", which is used in other tested APIs; >>> however, generating realistic synthetic joint data (~50 poses) is quite >>> difficult and error prone. Further, no test API currently exists to supply >>> this data. https://github.com/immersive-web/webxr-test-api/issues/86 >>> tracks investigating adding such an API. IDL validation: >>> https://wpt.fyi/results/webxr/hand-input?label=experimental&label=master&aligned >>> >>> Flag name on chrome://flags webxr-hand-input >>> >>> Finch feature name WebXRHandInput >>> >>> Requires code in //chrome? 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