On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 4:22 PM 'Panos Astithas' via blink-dev <
blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:12 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/12/25 5:38 PM, Frank Tang (譚永鋒) wrote:
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:19 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 10:39 AM 'Frank Tang (譚永鋒)' via blink-dev <
>>> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 6:02 AM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the use counter LocaleInfoObsoleteGetters is at 0.033%
>>>>> which is a bit high.
>>>>>
>>>> Dear Daniel:
>>>>
>>>> From your point of view, could you please define what number would
>>>> be considered as not "high" or "low enough" ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We don't have a hard and fast rule, but in this case it's "high enough"
>>> that we would like a bit more info to estimate risk.
>>>
>>
>> If there are no hard and fast rules, then how do we determine 0.033% is a
>> bit high? but not low enough? gut feeling?
>>
>> Experience breaking things. See
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RC-pBBvsazYfCNNUSkPqAVpSpNJ96U8trhNkfV0v9fk/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.83o2xr8ayal6.
>>
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>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I can't see LocaleInfoFunctions at all so does that mean that it has
>>>>> never been triggered?
>>>>>
>>>> No, we didn't hook up that to the same UI. All other intl features were
>>>> hook up with this UI and while I added the CL
>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6020626/  So
>>>> syg@ said I should not use blink_feature but webdx_feature due to 
>>>> "jstenback's
>>>> email about WebDX features"
>>>>
>>>> So I hooked up the counter of both kLocaleInfoObsoletedGetters
>>>> and kLocaleInfoFunctions to that
>>>> but we later on find there are no easy way to access that info from
>>>> public UI yet. So in
>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6089243 I
>>>> change LocaleInfoObsoleteGetters back to blink_feature
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure how to access the query to check webdx_feature. If anyone
>>>> know how to query that, we can see from that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your use counter is here:
>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/5232
>>>
>>
>> That one is for LocaleInfoObsoleteGetters, which is  blink_feature that
>> we know how to see the counter
>>
>>
Ok, but the URL above also lists various sites that are
triggering LocaleInfoObsoleteGetters, ranked by popularity. I'm suggesting
checking the top 20 such sites to see if any are broken.

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> What we do not know how to access is kLocaleInfoFunctions, which is
>> webdx_feature that we do not know how to access the counter.
>>
>> Please reach out to pastithas@ or kadirtopal@ for help on that.
>>
>
> Unfortunately we don't yet expose these use counters in ChromeStatus, but
> we're working on it. In the meantime internal UMA data
> <https://uma.googleplex.com/p/chrome/timeline_v2?sid=f68dc5965348456a1cfb7dae5fa891d8>
>  should
> help make progress here.
>
> Thanks,
> Panos
>
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