Also true as far as that goes, so where do you draw that line then? On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 08:03:38AM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > That can be said for any specialized software. High end photo editing > software is really only good for that special niche group for example. And > they have to go out of their way to buy it and install it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> > To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:48:10 +0100 > Subject: Re: FYI - Command Line Programs for the Blind > > > See to me, I see Orca as part of the installed system, not some special app > > you have to go install a laJaws or NVDA on Windows however. > > > > So to me, no, Orca's a part of the distro that helps out disabled (Not just > > blind....) users however. Something like Fenrir that you have to go out of > > your way to install specifically, or espeakup, or TDSR, or... would more > > fit that specialized blindie specific software tag however I feel, since > > you need to... > > > > 1. Go installe it from Git, or Pip or your package manager or however you > > install it > > > > 2. It doesn't help anyone but blind users. Something like Orca with a > > magnifier also wouldn't be blind specific since it'd help people with low > > vision as well for instance however > > > > That and, well, I just feel like if it's part of the distro or OS, it's not > > really this hyper specialized thing. It's there when you've installed the > > system alongside every other package that gets installe. > > > > Okay for something like vanilla Arch, I'd argue that works against Orca > > because I had to manually install it and, yes, go out o my way when setting > > up this box to have Orca on as part of my install and setup routine....but > > for something like a GUI Arch installer that lets you select accesssibility > > in the installer, the distinction gets really, really fuzzy since then > > Orca's installed and part o the system. Ditto for Ubuntu, Debian, et > > cetera. Kind of a tough one to call > > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Linux for blind general > > discussion wrote: > > > > > > Hmmm, interesting, about "the blind" and being human. > > > > > > I have no problem with it anyway, because I just wonder: "The blind" has > > > and will always refer to humans and not some animals. > > > > > > Then about blind-specific products: the Orca you are using on the > > > computer is certainly a blindie thing, isn't it? The fact that you > > > require specialised applications 'made for the blind' to participate in > > > mainstream activities says otherwise. > > > > > > > > > Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com> writes: > > > > > > > Well, no, I didn't mean to replace one for-the-blind specialized Linux > > > > distribution with another. Everything I said centered around the fact > > > > that I use something that anyone can use, I work with anyone, and I am > > > > human above all, not the blind. Slint is also a one-man show that is > > > > just a specialized Slackware, albeit with some improvements, and even > > > > Slackware as old as it is is also a one-man show. I am much more in > > > > favor personally of using distributions with much better community > > > > support and more than one person maintaining them. Yes, a team can get > > > > too large for the good of its own project, but two heads are always > > > > better than one, and three can usually be better than 2. > > > > > > > > ~Kyle > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > -- > > Jace's words are up there. Quoted and old messages below this point > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >
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