Well,
> On Nov 23, 2016, at 18:31, Mikael Abrahamsson <swm...@swm.pp.se> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Benjamin Cronce wrote:
>
>> If there is a simple affordable solution, say Open/DD-WRT distro based
>> bridge that all you do is configure your up/down bandwidth and it applies
>> Codel/fq-Codel/Cake, then all you need to do is drive up awareness. A good
>> channel for awareness would be getting in contact with popular Twitch or
>> YouTube gaming streamers. But I wouldn't put much effort into driving up
>> awareness until there is a device that people can easily acquire, use, and
>> afford. At first I was thinking of telling people to use *-WRT supporting
>> routers, but changing the firmware on your router requires too much
>> research, and many people care about bleeding edge features. You need
>> something that works in tangent with whatever they are using.
>
> If Comcast sells you 100/20 (I have no idea if this is a thing), you set your
> upstream on this box to 18 meg fq_codel, and then Comcast oversubscribes you
> so you only get 15 meg up part of the time, then you're still bloated by the
> modem. This is not a solution.
since Comcast will roll-out DOCSIS3.1 modems any time now, the inbuilt PIE AQM
will solve the variable upstream problem relatively well, but that still does
not fix the downstream. Also oversubscription/congestion is not unique on
DOCSIS systems, most ISPs have somewhere some bandwidth link that is
oversubscribed (e.g. the uplink connection of aDSLAM) and there the problem is
the same as on cable, namely we can only control the local bottleneck.
>
> I don't think "buy $thing, install *WRT on it, configure it like this" is
> above most gamers, but I'm afraid we don't even have a working solution for
> someone with that kind of skillset.
Well we have something that can solve a big part of the problem
“self-induuced” congestion on the last mile, while not a solution to all
latency increase under load certainly a worthwhile improvement. Or put
differently this will not remedy bandwidth competition with other subscribers,
but it can solve the bandwidth competition with other local users (behind the
same CPE).
Maybe we need to document better the scope of what we can and can not “deliver”?
Best Regards
Sebastian
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