Yes, especially for
* the performance-reporting tools' own page and also for
* some well-known, moderately complex ones.
Not the minimalist Google front page, but perhaps a particular query...
--dave
On 28/11/16 01:58 PM, Simon Barber wrote:
Web page load time.
Simon
On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:37 AM, David Collier-Brown <dave...@rogers.com> wrote:
In this context, I'd say latency and the effect of bloat reduction on it and
transfer time.
Dave Taht can say much more (;-))
I'm just echoing his concern, from the point of view of a capacity planner.
--dave c-b
[I'm using latency as the time from the request to the first response, transfer time as
the time from the first response to the last response, which may be 0, and sleep/think
time as the time from the last response to the next request, for a given stream of
requests and responses, AKA "transactions"]
On 28/11/16 12:59 PM, Kathleen Nichols wrote:
That's a good idea in general, but what are you measuring for your
"actual performance"?
Raw throughput? Goodput (which requires a bit of processing)? Then what
about delay?
On 11/28/16 9:41 AM, David Collier-Brown wrote:
Put the speed-test /into the router/, with a big red button to turn
fq_codel on and off.
* The performance reporting graphs can then run on a browser page
for as long as you like, while you do other things, and go back to
the page and see what it's been like. * Have a line for "perfect"
performance, and anyone can see how close you're system is coming to
it. * Have a button for a synthetic load test, of some shortish
duration, and, * Put it on normal Linux hosts too, so you can test
end-to-end.
This has the advantage that it's code-first, so you don't have to
convince the uninterested, and from it you can write a small and
limited RFC to tell everyone else how you did it.
As each new improvement comes along, actual performance slowly gets
closer and closer to the optimal performance line...
--dave
On 28/11/16 10:21 AM, Jonathan Foulkes wrote:
Thanks for the Introduction Rich, and thanks again to you and many
others on this list for all your contributions over the years
helping to combat bloat.
This product was born of my own frustration with finding a way to
help neighbors and family get a simple off-the-shelf solution that
even non-technical users can deploy.
I look forward to participating more actively on this list.
Jonathan
On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hano...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have been exchanging a few emails with Jonathan Foulkes from
evenroute.com. He tells me that his company is installing OpenWrt
on a commercial, off the shelf (COTS) TP-Link router and selling
them on commercially. His "secret sauce" is an auto-update
facility and improved setup software, which includes a
rate-detection step that operates continually to adjust the
fq_codel parameters to the actual line rate. You can take a look
at IQrouter.com, or look them up on Amazon.
This might be a solution to our current conundrum about not
having an easy solution that solves our family's networking
problem. I'm going to get one of these and try it out.
He has been following our bufferbloat and make-fifi-fast work
closely, as well as the work on LEDE, which he'll consider once
it hits a stable point. I have invited him to join this list.
Welcome, Jonathan.
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