> On Nov 29, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Dave Taht <d...@taht.net> wrote:
> 
> This whole thread, although diversive... well, I'd really like everybody
> to get together and try to write a joint paper on the best stuff to do,
> worldwide, to make bufferbloat go away.

+1

I don’t think it’s an accident that a discussion around CoDel evolved into a 
discussion around TCP.

If newer TCP CC algorithms can eliminate self-induced bloat, it should still be 
possible for queue management to handle older TCP implementations and extreme 
cases while not damaging newer TCPs. Beyond that, there may be areas where 
queue management can actually enhance the performance of newer TCPs. For 
starters, there’s what happens within an RTT, which I suppose can’t be dealt 
with in the TCP stack, and referring back to one of Jon’s messages from 11/27, 
the possibility for improved signaling from AQM back to TCP on the state of the 
queue. Global coordination could make this work better.

p.s.- Apologies for it taking me longer than an RTT to re-read the original 
CoDel papers and think through some implications. My original question might 
have been smarter.
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