HI Jonathan,

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 17:41, Jonathan Foulkes <j...@jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
> 
> Toke, that link returns a 404 for me.
> 
> For others, I’ve found that testing cake throughput with isolation options 
> enabled is tricky if there are many competing connections. 

        Are you talking about the fact that with competing connections, you 
only see the current isolation quantum's equivalent f the actual rate? In that 
case maybe parse the "tc -s qdisc" output to get an idea how much data/packets 
cake managed to push through in total in each direction instead of relaying on 
the measured goodput? I am probably barking up the wrong tree here...

> Like I keep having to tell my customers, fairness algorithms mean no one 
> device will ever gain 100% of the bandwidth so long as there are other open & 
> active connections from other devices.

        That sounds like solid advice ;) Especially in the light of the 
exceedingly useful "ingress" keyword, which under-load-will drop depending on a 
flow's "unresponsiveness" such that more responsive flows end up getting a 
somewhat bigger share of the post-cake throughput...

> 
> That said, I’d love to find options to increase throughput for single-tin 
> configs.

        With or without isolation options?

Best Regards
        Sebastian

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2020, at 7:35 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat 
>> <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> writes:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I migrated to an APU2 (https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm) as residential 
>>> router, from my previous WRT1200AC (marvell armada 385).
>>> 
>>> I was running OpenWrt 18.06 on that one, now I am running latest 19.07.3 
>>> on the APU2.
>>> 
>>> Before I had 500/100 and I had to use FQ_CODEL because CAKE took too much 
>>> CPU to be able to do 500/100 on the WRT1200AC. Now I upgraded to 1000/1000 
>>> and tried it again, and even the APU2 can only do CAKE up to ~300 
>>> megabit/s. With FQ_CODEL I get full speed (configure 900/900 in SQM in 
>>> OpenWrt).
>>> 
>>> Looking in top, I see sirq% sitting at 50% pegged. This is typical what I 
>>> see when CPU based forwarding is maxed out. From my recollection of 
>>> running CAKE on earlier versions of openwrt (17.x) I don't remember CAKE 
>>> using more CPU than FQ_CODEL.
>>> 
>>> Anyone know what's up? I'm fine running FQ_CODEL, it solves any 
>>> bufferbloat but... I thought CAKE supposedly should use less CPU, not 
>>> more?
>> 
>> Hmm, you say CAKE and FQ-Codel - so you're not enabling the shaper (that
>> would be FQ-CoDel+HTB)? An exact config might be useful (or just the
>> output of tc -s qdisc).
>> 
>> If you are indeed not shaping, maybe you're hitting the issue fixed by this 
>> commit?
>> 
>> https://github.com/dtaht/sch_cake/commit/3152477235c934022049fcddc063c45d37ec10e6n
>> 
>> -Toke
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