"Flow control power is non-decentralizable" is from -- 1981? So we've known for 40 years that TCP streams won't play nicely with each other unless you shape them at the slower endpoint-- am I understanding that correctly? But we keep trying anyway? :)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:24 PM Stephen Hemminger via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 00:45:12 +0300 > Jonathan Morton via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > On 4 Aug, 2022, at 3:21 pm, Bjørn Ivar Teigen via Bloat > > > <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > > > Main take-away (as I understand it) is something like "In real-world > > > networks, jitter adds noise to the end-to-end delay such that any > > > algorithm trying to infer congestion from end-to-end delay measurements > > > will occasionally get it wrong and this can lead to starvation". Seems > > > related to Jaffe's work on network power (titled "Flow control power is > > > non-decentralizable"). > > > > Hasn't this been known for many years, as a consequence of experience with > > TCP Vegas? > > > > - Jonathan Morton > > It seems like BBR developers thought they could do better. Unfortunately, > papers with negative > results never seem to get written or published ;-( > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat _______________________________________________ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
