Yup!

My company just decided that routing fallbacks, like the ARPA NIMs had,
weren't necessary. Right after the Rogers BGP fiasco that cut off 50% of
Canada from the internet...

Bother!

--dave

On 8/4/22 19:46, Daniel Sterling via Bloat wrote:
"Flow control power is non-decentralizable" is from -- 1981? So we've
known for 40 years that TCP streams won't play nicely with each other
unless you shape them at the slower endpoint-- am I understanding that
correctly? But we keep trying anyway? :)

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:24 PM Stephen Hemminger via Bloat
<bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 00:45:12 +0300
Jonathan Morton via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

On 4 Aug, 2022, at 3:21 pm, Bjørn Ivar Teigen via Bloat 
<bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Main take-away (as I understand it) is something like "In real-world networks, jitter adds 
noise to the end-to-end delay such that any algorithm trying to infer congestion from end-to-end 
delay measurements will occasionally get it wrong and this can lead to starvation". Seems 
related to Jaffe's work on network power (titled "Flow control power is 
non-decentralizable").
Hasn't this been known for many years, as a consequence of experience with TCP 
Vegas?

  - Jonathan Morton
It seems like BBR developers thought they could do better. Unfortunately, 
papers with negative
results never seem to get written or published ;-(
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