On Aug 13, 2012 9:06 PM, "Olemis Lang" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi ! > > On 8/13/12, Ethan Jucovy <[email protected]> wrote: >.... > > But also note that excanvas.js is distributed under the Apache license; it > > doesn't say "Licened to the Apache Software Foundation" (AFAIK) - see > > below.
Certainly. The statements mean entirely different things, and each is correct. Not a problem. >... > > I was not very clear in my original message though. The "Licensed to the > > Apache Software Foundation under one or more contributor license > > agreements" header is not itself an Apache license. It isn't meant to be. It is telling you the status of the file, and where to find the license. So. What is your point? >... > > I'm not sure what it > > actually means Then why are you presupposing a problem exists? Why are you sending this email? If you wish to learn, then go do some reading rather than distracting the community. Ask on [email protected] for pointers. SOMETHING besides uninformed hypotheses. > > but I my understanding is that it indicates, as well as an > > Apache license, a copyright assignment to ASF (presumably necessary because > > it is original code in ASF's subversion repository) I wish you would actually learn about the ASF's licensing practices, rather than waste Olemis' and my time. No copyright assignment to the ASF has ever occurred. We don't accept them. >... > > which would have to(?) > > be revoked in case of upstream contribution. No. I told you this is my initial reply. >... > > This, again, seems like a lot > > of artificial barriers to integration. No. No such barrier exists. Learn and ask, before making such stipulations. >... > > But other messages in this thread > > seem to say that this will not be a problem and/or will be moot in the case > > of these specific files. Exactly. So what is your problem? Move on to substantive issues. >... > > That said, this set of complications was one of the factors in the original > > decision(?) by Bloodhound's developers to work on Trac core modifications > > outside the ASF SVN (e.g. Github) and [therefore be able] to keep all > > modifications BSD-licensed; hence my asking why the developers changed > > their mind, and questioning whether the added convenience should really > > outweigh the ensuing headaches. It has been done. I agree with their choice. Where the core patches are made is irrelevant. They *will* be made. May as well group them in the same place. >... > Q - Is there any part licensed under ALv2 a candidate > to be committed upstream ? > A - *NO* Well... maybe some of it may be offered/accepted, but should the upstream devs ask for a license change (that is not a given!), then it can be one. No problems, and no impediment. >... > > My "-1" referred to the licensing and code > > location aspects, and to the fact that these questions had not yet been > > raised and discussed, and no more. The licensing aspects are fine, as I covered in my email. You need to learn more about IP at the ASF before you question the approach. I did a review of the tarball. I will perform more reviews in the future. If you have information or belief that that is insufficient, then I welcome your concerns. > ... I don't see why that's necessary to release o.1.0-rc1 . I do see > these subjects might be addressed before graduating the project from > Incubation process All licensing issues MUST be addressed before graduation. There is no "might be". Cheers, -g
