Hello Stephan, Thanks for your kind mail.
It was very helpful indeed. Regards Joshua On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 21:10 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:17:12 PM Joshua Immanuel wrote: > > I see almost everyone in this mailing list are from Zope 2 background. > > There are some unanswered questions on my mind. I would be very grateful > > if someone enlightens me on this. > > That's because the people that started Zope 3 (including me) wanted to change > the short-comings of Zope 2. > > > Why people haven't moved from Zope 2. Even worse, they continue their > > development towards Zope 4. > > Because Plone is built on it. And Plone is still one of the most popular OSS > projects out there. Zope 4 will be basically the bare bones of Zope 2 that is > needed for Plone to keep running. > > > The glory of Bluebream is (seemingly) fading out rapidly in spite of its > > well designed architecture. Why? (Or is it just my perception) > > Well, Bluebream is one configuration to build an app server using the various > toolkits. Unfortunately, for whatever reason Christophe and Baju are not > driving its development as hard anymore. That said, I use the library stack > all the time and so does Zope Corp. We simply do not start with the Bluebream > recipes, but build out own buildout.cfg and application.zcml. > > > Is there any major downfalls in bluebream or in other words, are there > > any added merits in Zope 2 that makes people to stick to it (other than > > the fact that Plone is based on it). > > No, not architecturally. Zope 3 does have a cleaner architecture than Zope 2, > which sometimes makes it for people harder to grasp at first. Though I have > recently started to work with someone coming from the Java Web framework > world > and he has no trouble dealing with Zope 3's component architecture. ;-) > > > If so many bluebream (ZTK) features are backported (or used) in Zope 2. > > Then we might as well merge them completely and have the benefits of > > both and eradicate the shortcomings in them. Is that feasible? > > No. The overhead that Zope 2 imposes would be unacceptable to me. You really > have to build a Zope 2 and Bluebream "Hello World" app and you will > understand > the reasons quickly. > > Regards, > Stephan -- Joshua Immanuel HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited http://hipro.co.in
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