Hi guys, On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:56 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > > general (and I think we do) does the TDF subline and the TDF trademark > > need a specific, more restrictive trademark policy OR does the TM > > already cover its usage? > > It is indeed a bit confusing. In the beginning, we talk about LibO and > TDF trademarks, but then we have this paragraph: "TDF Trademarks should > be used in their exact form, neither abbreviated nor combined with any
Right :-) > I think Michael raised these concerns already and wanted to legally > check it. Michael, any results? Nope; and I couldn't share any such advice as you know :-) But I think the points I raised were obvious enough even to an IANAL type such as myself. > Sorry for jumping in so late... Ditto, I've been buried. Personally - I would be well up for getting the trademark policy out in its earlier form before we started to try to get the logo distinction included. IMHO - we have everything we want to stop crazies pretending to be us by clearly forbidding: "2. In any way that indicates a greater degree of association between you and TDF than actually exists". I would suggest that we remove the in-text reference to the Logo page; and yet have a clear statement on the separate Logo page, and perhaps add a FAQ type link at the bottom ("does using a TDF logo indicate an association with the project?") that says something like: "Using a Logo with 'The Document Foundation' sub-line without being officially recognised as part of TDF idicates a degree of association that is closer than actually exists, and is therefore in breach of our trademark guidelines". "Please use the non-TDF mark in its place in its place etc. etc. ... " That is a helpful clarification I think. I'd like to recommend keeping the other bits until we have a foundation and employed counsel that can advise us on this; but I would also like to further advise that legal advice is deadly expensive, and usually extremely vague - handing you the same risks back again; and we have (perhaps) better things to spend our money on ;-) My feeling is also that we should fix the over-concern and distinction of "trademarks" from other marks, and restore the original "Marks" language that was a result of better advice. So - in short with a few cleans and I'm happy :-) HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***