Hi Daniel, *,
Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote on 28/06/2022 01:08:
El 27/6/22 a las 19:28, Cor Nouws escribió:
Win-win is a situation to which we all aspire. However, one of the key
pieces in this mutant puzzle is to broaden the ecosystem rather than
narrow it. And, in this sense, clear rules and boundaries are necessary.
Sure. Therefore I wrote ideas on broadening the ecosystem. And I'm sure
we only can agree that TDF deliberately competing with one of the few
ecosystem contributors, would not be a particularly smart thing to do
there ;) And the good thing is that that can be avoided, also when we
are encouraging more businesses to help our ecosystem grow.
TDF cannot force the entire mass of LibreOffice users to consume a
particular product. It can, however, improve it's work to raise
awareness about the importance of contributing (which is not reduced to
code) to the community that embraces the project.
Fully agree here. I guess we all hope that we can return to work on that
soon - obviously the time that we can spend here is limited for the most
of us. And choosing to put that energy in areas where we really can make
growth, seems wise.
We are in a wonderful open source project with work that we hope many
people will enjoy to use, in all freedom, and that they find encouraging
to contribute to.
Yes. Finding balance between ecosystem members and TDF is not easy. In
the Autumn of 2020 we learned the hard way that it can be easily
broken. So indeed we have to be respectful and considerate.
Community can ask the very same. Suffice it to recall that the door was
slammed when the foundation was working on the required marketing plan.
If that is part of how the situation is experienced, it only shows how
delicate these processes are.
And then still, apart from all things that happened then: looking back
I'm sure that not all that I do/did is/was perfect. And please allow me
to take the liberty to assume that is similar for others ;)
I still don't understand why people resort to self-flagellation by
arguing that TDF is trying to compete with the ecosystem. I think Sophi
I think I missed seeing that happening. In any case, for me
self-flagellation is not the category under which one would expect to
find a normal 'clear and reliable relation'.
has put it very well by saying that there are spaces for everyone and
that worldwide not all users are able to pay a subscription to access a
product. In Latin America, for example, there are countless social
organizations or organizations linked to indigenous peoples whose main
role is to narrow the gap in access to technology. Sound familiar?
We see these things everywhere. And it will not surprise you that I
regret to see that. Hence my love to be in open source development and
open source projects.
And of course no country or region is excluded - people from anywhere
should feel encouraged to contribute. I firmly believe that we can
provide software for free and do such in a smart way not hurting our
very own ecosystem, that we so desperately need. Everyday we are ready
to welcome people from everywhere around the world contributing and are
we educating them to get them started.
I believe that neither TDF nor the community can be blamed for not
satisfying the whims of a company.
Very true. And honestly I hope that I should not understand that you
mean that we have company's whims, demanding the community to satisfy
whatever their needs are...
Looking forward, on the side of solutions that are not crushing our open
source development: I think I made a careful hint already in my response
to Sophie.. I hope it is not too hidden ;) and that it encourages people
to think about real solutions.
I look forward to listen to and talk about all ideas, e.g./especially in
Milan. In the mean time encouraging and helping people to do what they
believe in: work on open source!
Cheers,
Cor
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