I also agree that it would be good to cover this on the board call since we 
also need to form a work group to complete the PAPE specification, which I'd 
like to have start within weeks, not months.

                                Thanks,
                                -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drummond Reed
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT

I agree with Nat -- the Contribution Agreements all work in the past. How
specifically does a new working group start its work and obtain contribution
agreements for new work going forward?

This is fairly urgent topic as Nat and others want to propose new work and
get started.

Scott, can you add that to the agenda for this Thursday's board telecon?

Thanks,

=Drummond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Nat Sakimura
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT
>
> Since this mail is rather long, here is the excecutive summary.
>
> (0) I want to start contributing and thus sign the contribution agreement.
> (1) The current non-assertion agreement is only for the works of the past.
> (2) Therefore, it does not work for the new contributions on a new work
> group.
> (3) Which document shall I sign for making contributions?
>
> Following is the detail:
>
> http://openid.net/ipr/Non-Assertion-
> Agreement/OpenID_IP_Contribution_Agreement_(Entities)_20071205.pdf
>
> The document is specifically for the Specifications which is defined
> as in section 1 (g)
>
> (g) "Specifications"  means  solely  the  indicated  versions  of  the
>  following  documents  (each  of  which,  as  of  the
> Effective  Date,  is  located  at  the  indicated  URL):  (i) OpenID
> Authentication  1.1  (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐
> authentication‐1_1.html);;  (ii) OpenID  Simple  Registration
> Extension  1.0  (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐simple‐
> registration‐extension‐1_0.html);;  (iii) OpenID  Authentication  2.0
> -  Implementer's  Draft  12
> (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐authentication‐2_0‐12.html);  (v)
> Yadis  Discovery  Protocol  1.0
> (http://yadis.org/papers/yadis‐v1.0.pdf);  and  (vi) OpenID  Attribute
>  Exchange  -  Draft  8
> (http://openid.net/specs/openid‐attribute‐exchange‐1_0‐08.html).
>
> Moreover, "Contribution" is defined in section 1(a) as
>
> (a) "Contributions"  means  any  written  communication  made  by  or
> on  behalf  of  Contributor  before  the  Effective Date and intended
> for inclusion in a Specification.
>
> Note that Effective Date is the date of signing this agreement.
>
> So it does not include the future proposed specification at all, from
> what I see.
> To this extent, I do not think this agreement can be used to initiate
> a new Work Group specified in the spec. process document. In fact,
> none of us, including those who have signed this contribution
> agreement can start contributing for new things at all, if my
> interpretation is right (and I think I am right.)
>
>
> =nat
>
>
> 2008/2/20, Nat Sakimura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi all:
> >
> >  I have looked at:
> >  http://openid.net/ipr/Non-Assertion-
> Agreement/OpenID_IP_Contribution_Agreement_(Entities)_20071205.pdf
> >
> >  Looks like it is not the general case. (If I am not reading it wrong,
> it
> >  only covers "the Specifications")
> >
> >  If I were to start a WG process, the contributors need to submit
> >  Contribution Agreement as par IPR Policy. Which particular document
> >  should I submit?
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> >  Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
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> >  [email protected]
> >  http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board
> >
>
>
> --
> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> http://www.sakimura.org/en/

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