Hi Nat
Not sure the issue I raised is addressed below. Clearly there are a
number of tasks to be taken care of at the national level. My question
is how does the OIDF decide who which chapter will be the national
chapter if more then one group wants to be the national chapter? First
come first served? What if others in that nation are not happy with
what the OIDF anointed national chapter is doing?
A key tenant of open source communities is the ability to fork. Not
that anyone wants a fork, but the right to fork means that a community
can split up and go its separate ways. The rest of the local chapter
model let's a chapter fork if people want to accomplish different goals.
Suggestions on how to deal with those issues?
-- Dick
On 8-May-08, at 7:14 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
Hi Mike,
Below is from my original Chapter Policy Manuscript, which seems to
be much too robust for acceptance.
However, it does contain such criterias: Specifically, National
Chapters must fulfil III-2, III-3:
III-2. Intellectual Property
The National Chapters are required to secure the
fair use of trademarks and other intellectual property
in the jurisdiction for the OpenID Community with a
commercially reasonable effort.
III-3. Translation
i. The National Chapters are required
to provide the translation of then current OpenID Specifications and
the IPR documents in the local language.
ii. The National Chapters are required
to assist the communication of the Local Chapter Members with the
Working Groups by setting up a local language mailing list parallel
to the OIDF Working Group mailing lists.
III-2 especially, requires a single entity to be doing this, since
otherwise, it will result in a chaos. This probalby is the most
important reason for having a single National Chapter.
Also, IMHO, a National chapter should conduct a preliminary survay
of local patents for the possible infringement of those by OpenID
specificatioin. This is a rather costly operation and best dealt at
one entity for the economic reason. Probably, this should be added
to III-2 as well.
Nat
Original text are as below:---
II. Duties of a Local Chapter
1. Intellectual Property
The chapters must agree that their activities will be for the
purpose of supporting the adoptions and the usage of OpenID. They
must agree that any intellectual property or trademarks developed or
held by the local chapter must be available freely for the OpenID
Community for the fair use.
2. Activities
Each Local Chapter must engage in the following activities:
i. Annual General Meeting
ii. Annual Report Publishing
iii. Web site which is enabled with OpenID
Authentication.
3. Autonomous Financing
The chapters must operate autonomously without any financial support
from OIDF.
4. Membership Management
Local Chapters must maintain the list of the Local Chapter Members.
III. Obligations of a National Chapter
In addition to the above Local Chapters duties, National Chapters
are required to fulfill the following obligations.
1. Form
Although it is not required to be registered as a non-profit
organization, a National Chapter must be a non-profit for its purpose.
2. Intellectual Property
The National Chapters are required to secure the fair use of
trademarks and other intellectual property in the jurisdiction for
the OpenID Community with a commercially reasonable effort.
3. Translation
i. The National Chapters are required
to provide the translation of then current OpenID Specifications and
the IPR documents in the local language.
ii. The National Chapters are required
to assist the communication of the Local Chapter Members with the
Working Groups by setting up a local language mailing list parallel
to the OIDF Working Group mailing lists.
Mike Jones wrote:
Nat and Snorri, since you're the ones advocating OIDF having the
concept of designated national chapters, I'm going to first ask you
to take a stab at answering Dick's question. I agree with him that
having a designation but no criteria for the board to make that
designation nor any definition of how the OIDF should treat a
designated national chapter any differently than any other local
chapter is a recipe for future problems.
Summarizing, I think the questions are:
- What criteria will be used to decide which application is
granted the national chapter if there is more then one applicant?
- Does the OIDF treat designated national chapters any
differently than other chapters, and if so, how?
Thanks,
-- Mike
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dick Hardt
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy
12 - Territories
OIDF will recognize any proposed eligible Local Chapters,
regardless of the geographic scope of the chapter, including
chapters with overlapping territories and missions. Chapters
organized at the nation state level may apply to the OIDF to be
recognized as the OIDF-designated national chapter. OIDF will
recognize at most one chapter as the designated national chapter in
a nation-state at any time.
What criteria will be used to decide which application is granted
the national chapter if there is more then one applicant?
If the national chapter leadership is lacking and another group
wants to take over, how is that done?
These are very subjective / political criteria that I think would
be best for the OIDF to stay out of if possible.
-- Dick
--
Nat Sakimura (=nat)
Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.
XDI.ORG Vice Chair
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