Yes, I am opposed.   The notification must include the precise proposed text 
changes to the IPR documents, preferably as tracked changes to the approved 
originals, so the lawyers know exactly what changes are being considered to our 
IPR policy and process.  Until those precise changes are drafted and available, 
we can not start the 21-day legal review process.

                                                                -- Mike

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Brian Kissel
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] 4 spec process improvement board votes - results 
are in

Given that we need a 21 day notification for a membership vote, I'd suggest we 
start that official notification now.  Anyone opposed to that?

Nat, can you create the posting for the home page of the OIDF website, which is 
also required?

Cheers,

Brian
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Fax: 503.296.5502

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Nat Sakimura
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:58 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] 4 spec process improvement board votes - results 
are in

Hmmm. While this option sounds attractive, we might want to take two phased 
approach.
I have just made motions for the urgent things. If we start requirement 
gathering at this stage, it will delay these changes.

So, my proposal is to do what the board vote approved in parallel to the longer 
term ammendment with requirement gatherings. (BTW, there are bunch of things 
that I want to list under this mid-term project.)

I will draft the ammendment to the Process document this weekend.

One of the motion is unrelated to the Process document, but to assign the 
committee liaison the power to take an initiative to facilitate and advance the 
specs process. i.e., David is now officially empowered to chase down the specs 
council members as well as to help out the proposers so that the process goes 
as quick as it can.

I have not seen much progress on OpenID+OAuth hybrid and CX specs council 
process. I hope this will improve the situation.

=nat
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:10 AM, David Recordon 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Given that there are some other things we'd like to amend to the IPR Process, 
should we try to capture the entire list of changes we wish to make so we only 
need to do this once?


On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Brian Kissel wrote:

OK thanks Mike.  Do we have a "members" email address to start the membership 
notification period?

Cheers,

Brian
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Brian Kissel
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Fax: 503.296.5502

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] 4 spec process improvement board votes - results 
are in

We can not amend the process doc without a membership vote, and the following 
criteria being met, as per section 3.4 of the process:

*          21 day notice period
*          Multiple electronic notice required (if the OIDF member has provided 
multiple addresses), including to a "legal contact," if provided
*          Prominent posting (at least 21 days in advance of the beginning of 
the voting period) on homepage of OIDF website
*          7 day voting period after end of notice period (if vote is not taken 
at a properly-noticed meeting)
*          OIDF members may designate a proxy from the member's registered 
OpenID identifier specifying the designated proxy's OpenID identifier
*          Any approved change is prospective only
*          Approval of a change requires either of the following:
Approval Option 1
o    Quorum of greater of 60% of OIDF membership or 30 OIDF members (no bypass 
option) and
o    Supermajority vote of those constituting a quorum, plus a majority 
concurrence by the OIDF Board
Approval Option 2
o    Quorum of greater of 30% of OIDF membership or 30 OIDF members (no bypass 
option) and
o    Majority vote of those constituting a quorum, plus a supermajority 
concurrence by the entire OIDF Board (where "absents" and "abstains" count as 
"no" votes)
Any change to the IPR Policy or Processes will not be effective until 21 days 
after approval, during which time then-current Contributors may withdraw in 
accordance with the IPR Policy or Processes as they existed prior to the change

Nat could produce an updated draft of the doc (which should have tracked 
changes on relative to the approved version) for legal membership review prior 
to the vote, but none of this can go into effect until the membership vote has 
occurred and met the criteria above.

                                                                -- Mike

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Kissel
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:29 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] 4 spec process improvement board votes - results 
are in

Thanks to everyone for your timely voting.  While the polls are still open, all 
4 of the motions made by Nat have passed.  Nat can you take care of modifying 
the OpenID process document?

Cheers,

Brian
==============
Brian Kissel
Cell: 503.866.4424
Fax: 503.296.5502

From: Brian Kissel
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:24 PM
To: '[email protected]<mailto:%[email protected]>'
Subject: RE: 4 spec process improvement board votes - please go to the website 
and vote

Hello All, just a reminder to go to the website and vote on these 4 motions.  
To date we only have 5 votes and we need 7 for a majority decision.

Cheers,

Brian
==============
Brian Kissel
Cell: 503.866.4424
Fax: 503.296.5502

From: Brian Kissel
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:16 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: 4 spec process improvement board votes

Hello OIDF board members,

The four spec process improvement motions made by Nat Sakimura and seconded by 
Brian Kissel have now completed the seven day notification and discussion 
period.  Each motion is now available for board voting on the OIDF polling 
tool.   A simple majority vote by 7 or more board members is required for 
approval on each motion.  The vote ends on January 31st, 2009.

Regards,

Brian
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