I¹ll chime in as a business owner who is fluent in some of the technical issues around OpenID and I¹ll say that in our experience, finding the various libraries has been more laborious than we had anticipated.
Ie it took a lot of time for my developers to track down what the most recently updated¹ library for given technologies were and having information like that presented in a uniform or centralized manner would be wonderful. -Jonathan On 6/1/09 3:00 PM, "David Recordon" <[email protected]> wrote: > So far Chris made the proposal and I've expressed support for it. Given that > no other board members have participated in the discussion, I'm guessing that > most board memebers don't have strong opinions on the matter. We could > either: > 1) try to encourage additional discussion among board members and the > community > 2) accept this as a valid motion and have Don schedule an electronic vote > 3) discuss this on our executive committee call next week and make a decision > there > > Don, can you please help move this discussion/decision forward? > > Thanks, > --David > > On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:55 AM, DeWitt Clinton wrote: > >> Can we at least decide one way or the other whether I can open the >> openid.googlecode.com <http://openid.googlecode.com> project up to Chris and >> others representing the OIDF? >> >> -DeWitt >> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM, David Recordon <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> No, Heraldry failed because the two companies responsible for the majority >>> of OpenID implementations at the time didn't want to work within the ASF's >>> process. This is one of the reasons why community based open source >>> development is important beyond just corporate backed development. >>> >>> I think Chris' proposal is sound, he has buy in from various library >>> contributors, we have a way to let people like Mart continue developing on >>> GitHub, and I'm not seeing a concrete alternative proposal with someone >>> willing to lead it and make it happen like Chris is. So I'm sorry, but can >>> we please move forward? >>> >>> >>> If we believe that the best path forward is for Chris to first make >>> http://openid.net/code then lets do that, but I agree with him that an >>> OpenID Google Code project is a demonstrable piece of forward momentum. The >>> wider developer community has expressed many times over that OpenID's >>> libraries are not of the quality that they need to be and it is the >>> Foundation's job to help fix that. >>> >>> >>> --David >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Johannes Ernst wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Johannes Ernst <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We had this discussion before and it lead to the Apache incubator named >>>>>> Heraldry. Admittedly that one failed, but I don't think it was because of >>>>>> the name ;-) >>>>> >>>>> If it wasn't the name, can you describe why it failed. I've heard of >>>>> Heraldry, but am not familiar with its structure or fate. >>>> >>>> The idea was to incubate within the Apache Software Foundation an >>>> open-source project developing OpenID-related functionality. Libraries were >>>> donated into it, and an entire OpenID provider was donated into it. There >>>> was broad support from all parts of the OpenID community. We figured being >>>> associated with the ASF would not be a bad idea, and the Apache license >>>> sounded good, too. >>>> >>>> >>>> The incubation process failed because basically nobody "did anything" in >>>> terms of writing code. >>>> >>>>> I am curious how you think that the foundation should best go about >>>>> creating or facilitating the creation of the circumstances that would lead >>>>> to world-class open source OpenID libraries being developed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I haven't heard alternative proposals, but I have received some negative >>>>> feedback towards my proposals, and yet the libraries are still not writing >>>>> themselves. >>>> >>>> Well, from what I can see the openid4java project has some traction. It is >>>> my understanding that code from that project has been incorporated into >>>> some large-scale commercial offerings. It's a small community but it is >>>> active and has been for a while. So they are doing something right. Perhaps >>>> one could attempt to broaden that project beyond Java? >>>> >>>> >>>> I think a similar question needs to be asked about commercial/proprietary >>>> implementations. There aren't a whole lot of those either. I would >>>> stipulate that it is for the same reason. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now stop me because I'm about the speculate why that is. ;-) But that >>>> wasn't your question. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johannes. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board
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