Yes, it means one that you have explicitly opted out of and all new
applications as they become available.  It would be nice to have two
different settings.  One to allow applications that I have opted out of if
there is nothing else to do, and another for applications yet to be listed.

It would also be nice to link the applications listed in the applications
list with the applications listed for selection so that the administrator
did not have to create the list in two places.  (apparently they do have to
create the list in two places as SETI had (or maybe still has) a specific
version of AP, but not the most recent version of AP)...

jm7


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On 03.11.11 16:15, Peter Slacik wrote:
> OK, my apology, you've got me. The majority of the projects actually tell
something different from what I wrote, e.g.:
>
>     PrimeGrid project prefs (
http://www.primegrid.com/prefs.php?subset=project&cols=0 <
http://www.primegrid.com/prefs.php?subset=project&cols=0>):
>     "/Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work/".
>

"Subprojects" - OK, I now understand why occasionally people in our forums
confuse apps and projects. Unfortunate wording IMHO.

>     Collatz Conjecture prefs (
http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/prefs.php?subset=project): "/If no
work for selected applications is available,
>     accept work from other applications?/"
>

Both examples would behave differently from my original idea, and I'm not
even sure this solves the original problem.

These _could_ mean that work is accepted for applications people explicitly
opted-out from (at the time of editing preferences), it doesn't say
anything about future apps. And these refer only to the situation when
there is no work available for the selected applications.

If there really was a setting "Automatically send work for future
applications not yet mentioned here" I would probably like it (if the
default is
"yes"). Any hints on implementing it to become a BOINC standard?

> I remember that at least the World Community Grid (
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProjects.do) suports the
application opt-in, in
> addition to the previously mentioned task opt-in: "/Please opt me in to
new projects as they become available/", but I suspect the preferences code

> has less in common with BOINC trunk :-(

Literally nothing, that's their own custom code.

>> I still find it overly complicated for both the participant and the
BOINC server to have yet another setting to cover this case which I don't
think
>> is a special one, but if other projects got people used to that, I'd
give in and adopt it.
> Personally I'm glad to have such explicit options. When I'm connecting a
recent "powerful" (and always-on) machine, and an old "weaky" (or mostly
> switched-off) machine, to the same project, I may allow the project to
send just any tasks to the former one, but have to carefully choose
> applications (according to their crunch time and deadline) to be sent to
the latter one - surely with no automatic opt-in.

Doesn't sound like the average participant, though.

Best,
Bernd

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