No. The suggestion is to have another checkbox "Opt in to all new applications". If that were unchecked, then you would have to add all new applications that you wanted to run by hand. If it were checked, you would be opted in to all new applications, and would have to go unselect the ones that you wanted out of.
jm7 |------------> | From: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Jon Sonntag <[email protected]> | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | To: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |<[email protected]> | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Date: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |11/03/2011 12:55 PM | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Subject: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Re: [boinc_dev] app selection problem | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Sent by: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |<[email protected]> | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| If I choose to run only certain apps for a project and I choose not to accept work from other apps when those apps cannot get work, I would be very unhappy if the project ignored my preferences and decided I should run some new app without my approval. I chose those preferences for a reason. If I choose to run only 1 out of 5 apps on a project, I certainly don't want to get app #6 automatically added when it is released. If I want it, I'll add it to my preferences. If the project announces the new app and sends a reminder (isn't that what the new notices are for?) to users to check their preferences, that is all that is needed. It shouldn't be forced upon anyone, especially those who chose specifically not to run all apps and not to select work from any other apps when their selected apps are out of work. Here's a real life example: PrimeGrid's LLR apps run very hot and, as such, are sensitive to overclocking. In the past, they have caused a couple of my "low profile case" machines that have very poor airflow to overheat. I still want to contribute to PG, so I avoid all the LLR apps by deselecting them in my project preferences. If your suggestion were implemented, then if a new LLR app is released by PrimeGrid, I would get it added even though it would crash my machines. That's certainly not something for which I'd vote. I'd want PrimeGrid to honor my preferences and only send the apps I have chosen. Period. That includes new apps. Jon Sonntag > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:boinc_dev- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Bernd Machenschalk > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:32 AM > To: Peter Slacik > Cc: BOINC Developers Mailing List > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] app selection problem > > On 03.11.11 16:15, Peter Slacik wrote: > > OK, my apology, you've got me. The majority of the projects actually tell > something different from what I wrote, e.g.: > > > > PrimeGrid project prefs > (http://www.primegrid.com/prefs.php?subset=project&cols=0 > <http://www.primegrid.com/prefs.php?subset=project&cols=0>): > > "/Send work from any subproject if selected projects have no work/". > > > > "Subprojects" - OK, I now understand why occasionally people in our forums > confuse apps and projects. Unfortunate wording IMHO. > > > Collatz Conjecture prefs > (http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/prefs.php?subset=project): "/If no > work for selected applications is available, > > accept work from other applications?/" > > > > Both examples would behave differently from my original idea, and I'm not > even sure this solves the original problem. > > These _could_ mean that work is accepted for applications people explicitly > opted-out from (at the time of editing preferences), it doesn't say anything > about future apps. And these refer only to the situation when there is no > work available for the selected applications. > > If there really was a setting "Automatically send work for future applications > not yet mentioned here" I would probably like it (if the default is "yes"). Any > hints on implementing it to become a BOINC standard? > > > I remember that at least the World Community Grid > > (https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProjects.do) suports > > the application opt-in, in addition to the previously mentioned task > > opt-in: "/Please opt me in to new projects as they become available/", > > but I suspect the preferences code has less in common with BOINC trunk > > :-( > > Literally nothing, that's their own custom code. > > >> I still find it overly complicated for both the participant and the > >> BOINC server to have yet another setting to cover this case which I don't > think is a special one, but if other projects got people used to that, I'd give in > and adopt it. > > Personally I'm glad to have such explicit options. When I'm connecting > > a recent "powerful" (and always-on) machine, and an old "weaky" (or > > mostly > > switched-off) machine, to the same project, I may allow the project to > > send just any tasks to the former one, but have to carefully choose > applications (according to their crunch time and deadline) to be sent to the > latter one - surely with no automatic opt-in. > > Doesn't sound like the average participant, though. > > Best, > Bernd > > _______________________________________________ > boinc_dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
