I still would like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to "Running", despite David's logic against it.
The user's interpretations are not something we can control. Providing the feedback, using as meaningful description as possible, is something we can control. And I haven't heard anything that beats my proposal, hence why I'd still like to see it. :) > From: john.mcl...@sap.com > To: els...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:13:11 +0000 > CC: boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation of > permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean settable by > the user. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:els...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM > To: McLeod, John > Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. > or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important. > or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** <--- > > Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than > someone or something else; priority in importance, order, or rank. > I'd say it's second to (high) priority. > > Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. > or: a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the > payment of debts. > > We want to step away from priority, but do we still want it to have > the same meaning? As then you look at synonyms, which is what I did: > http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/priority > > -- Jord van der Elst. > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, McLeod, John <john.mcl...@sap.com> wrote: > > Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in English > > though. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: boinc_dev [mailto:boinc_dev-boun...@ssl.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of > > Jord van der Elst > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM > > To: David Anderson > > Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. > > Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. > > > > Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of > > importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. > > > > -- Jord van der Elst. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anderson <da...@ssl.berkeley.edu> > > wrote: > >> I think anything containing "priority" will create confusion > >> with OS priority. > >> > >> The other problem with showing this info is that it creates the > >> erroneous impression that the job's project will get more than > >> its fair share of computing. > >> Several projects report that when they use short job deadlines > >> (which create "high priority" jobs) they get lots of user complaints. > >> > >> So I'm in favor of not showing this in the GUI; > >> maybe we can show it in the event log in some better way. > >> > >> -- D > >> > >> On 03-Oct-2014 3:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: > >>> > >>> I'd like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to > >>> "Running". > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com> > >>> Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM > >>> To: McLeod, John<mailto:john.mcl...@sap.com>; > >>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu<mailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> > >>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > >>> > >>> The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC workshop > >>> in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation was one > >>> that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking that > >>> High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think we're > >>> much better off without those confusions over terminology, but I agree > >>> with > >>> John that it would be good if the reason for non-FIFO running could be > >>> marked in some way - if we can find a less-frightening word. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> From: "McLeod, John" <john.mcl...@sap.com> > >>>> To: "boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu" <boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu> > >>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM > >>>> Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS Scheduler > >>>> Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule might be > >>>> good for helping diagnose problems. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> boinc_dev mailing list > >>>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > >>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > >>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > >>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> boinc_dev mailing list > >>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> boinc_dev mailing list > >>> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> boinc_dev mailing list > >> boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > _______________________________________________ > > boinc_dev mailing list > > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > _______________________________________________ > boinc_dev mailing list > boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
