captdef wrote: 
> I don't want to rain on anyone's parade with this post.  Everyone is
> entitled to repair their speakers with the materials they have most
> easily available, but mctubster's findings reinforce what I've been
> assuming with this method:  This will degrade the speakers' dynamic
> response.  In practice it could be limiting the movement of the cone by
> at least half if any semi-flexible adhesive is applied all the way up to
> the peak of the rubber surround as most people have done.
> 
> I have two Booms that I recently repaired using 'this re-foam kit'
> (http://www.simplyspeakers.com/pioneer-speaker-foam-edge-repair-kit-fsk-3p.html)
> that was mentioned earlier in the thread.  Was it as easy as slapping on
> some silicone?  No.  But the results were great.  Both my units sound
> like new.  I did a quick comparison of sound after repairing the first
> one against the one which had only a tiny, not-yet-rattling separation. 
> They sounded identical.
> 
> The original plastic/rubber surrounds on the speakers do seem to have a
> fatal flaw. The material is extremely thin, and seemingly most so right
> at the transition from roll to basket edge where the splits are
> occurring. They don't seem to be actual butyl rubber like you'd see on
> better speakers. It's something more plastic-like, which might explain
> why it's getting brittle and eventually cracking at this weak point.  I
> think the re-foams will hold up longer than the Boom will be viable.  I
> don't believe the bezel surrounding the speaker has anything to do with
> the failures, as I've seen some people state.  I looked very carefully
> on both my units, and there is nowhere I could see that the bezel
> touches the surround, even during full speaker incursion/excursion.
> 
> If you love your Boom, repair it the right way, and get some serious
> satisfaction in knowing it's probably better than factory now.
> 
> Some tips I learned doing mine:
> 
> >   >   > 
  - Get a T10 long-shaft screwdriver.  I had a ton of T10 bits, but
  > the holes in the chassis are so small that none of my drivers would
  > fit down inside.
  - Use a window scraper style razor blade to remove the surround from
  > the basket.  Go slowly, and don't slip and slice your hand open.  I
  > had a close call.  You should be able to get it down almost to the
  > paint with a nice smooth surface to adhere the new surround.  The
  > adhesive used on the basket is almost epoxy-like.  It did not easily
  > soften with any solvents I had on hand.
  - I used 'this 3M solvent'
  > 
(http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/4153-3m-general-purpose-adhesive-cleaner-08984-p-10946.aspx)
  > (3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner) to remove the surround from
  > the cone.  Saturate the foam rubber in one spot using a Q-tip soaked
  > in the solvent until you can work an edge up from the inside of the
  > cone using a toothpick, dental pick, or some other appropriate tool.
  > Once you get under it a little, applying more solvent underneath
  > that edge will release the adhesive fairly easily.  Keep dabbing,
  > peeling, dabbing, peeling, and it will come right off.  Clean up the
  > remaining adhesive on the cone using fresh Q-tips and lint-free
  > cloth.  In my experience this solvent did not harm the cone in any
  > way.  Just don't use more than necessary.
  - Watch the videos on Simply Speakers website before you start with
  > the new surround.  Follow their method and you'll have great
  > results.
  - Take your time lining up and test-fitting the new surrounds.  They
  > are a little bit smaller outside diameter than the originals, but
  > careful placement and centering on the cone will ensure you have
  > enough overhang on the basket to get good adhesion.  The adhesive
  > provided with the Simply Speakers kit is really tacky and flexible
  > with a decent working time; far superior to some glues I've seen
  > with kits like this.  This adhesive alone makes the extra cost of
  > these kits worth it over the other site mentioned.  I am in no way
  > affiliated with any speaker repair supplier.
  > > > 

Man, if anyone wanted to make a video of this for those of us terrified
to take this on....it would be VERY appreciated. I just ordered my kit
and am staring at my separated foam/woofer in despair.


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