On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 at 16:30, Udit Kumar <udit.ku...@nxp.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Brown [mailto:broo...@kernel.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:20 PM
> > To: Udit Kumar <udit.ku...@nxp.com>
> > Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheu...@linaro.org>; Architecture Mailman List
> > <boot-architecture@lists.linaro.org>; nd <n...@arm.com>; arm.ebbr-discuss
> > <arm.ebbr-disc...@arm.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Arm.ebbr-discuss] [RFC] uefi: Account for SetVariable() not 
> > working
> > at runtime
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 02:19:49PM +0000, Udit Kumar wrote:
> >
> > > > > Do any existing implementations change variables from non-volatile
> > > > > to volatile?
> >
> > > > The UEFI spec is explicit about which variables are volatile and which 
> > > > are not.
> > > > Simply relaxing non-volatile to volatile in the general case doesn't
> > > > seem like a useful approach to me.
> >
> > > I believe at boot-time, UEFI specs will be followed for volatile and 
> > > non-volatile
> > variables.
> > > Having this in statement EBBR, will help those platform, which cannot 
> > > expose
> > non-volatile variables at runtime.
> >
> > If nothing currently does it the chances that anything will actually cope 
> > well
> > seem minimal.  Like Daniel said it seems more likely to break things - if 
> > the
> > variables are defined as being non-volatile then the OS is unlikely to be 
> > checking
> > at runtime if that's the case or not unless it's explicitly written to work 
> > with
> > EBBR.  If an error is generated because a non-volatile variable can't be 
> > set then
> > that should at least fall into whatever error handling code is there to 
> > cover
> > normal rutime failures which has some chance of doing something sensible.
>
> Right,
> There will be some breaks or say diversion from UEFI specs.
> If we need to follow UEFI specs 'Table 10. Global Variables' on such platform
> where we cannot write to NV storage at runtime, then in either case
> 1/ passing OS as no-efi-runtime or
> 2/ Returning errors/not saving to NV storage
> is violation of UEFI spec.
>
> Which divergence is acceptable ?
>
Neither, fix the specs with proper updates to support your use-case.

Or fix your platform to obey the specs you have chosen.

Don't write a spec to bend another spec that way leads to chaos.

Graeme
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