On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 14:03, Tolkin, Steve wrote:
> I have exactly the same symptoms as Philipp Hanes
> (needing to open two layers before reaching the actual mail from Sean
> Quinlan)

Again, I'm sorry this is the case in your situation. And please don't
take this personally, but I'd prefer to do what I think is the right
thing by default, and regret the inconvenience this sometimes causes a
few, rather than stop using encryption because MS software doesn't
handle it gracefully.

> I too am running Outlook.
> I did not choose it, my employer did.  
> I have no ability or interest in getting at the Exchange servers
> directly.
> 
> I think if I forward these message to my home account I
> may not do any better -- won't the damage have been done already?
> Or is the problem in the Outlook client but not the Exchange Server?
> 
> But forwarding mail home does not help, as I mostly read it at work.

Is there a way you could read it from both?

> And the PGP signature does not help much, because
> I do not have an easy way to validate that this is good.

It's actually a gpg signature, but they are approximately equivalent
from a basic usage standpoint. Does Outlook have any support for pgp,
which has both commercial and (IIRC) free windows versions? If not, you
_should_ (it's been many years since I used pgp and Eudora) be able to
install it on your MS box, save signed emails, and use the pgp tools to
verify emails outside of the mail client.

> The best part about seeing them is that I am yet heard
> of a virus that puts a dummy PGP block into the email --
> but it would be easy enough to do.

Certainly it would be. So unless the signiture is validated it's not
worth too much.

> Is there an automated way to use this block to check all email
> before opening it?

Yes. I know Eudora supported encryption years ago (as mentioned above),
and I've been told Thunderbird handles encryption well. Evolution will
handle it automatically if the sig is attached - if it's inline I have
to check it myself (which I only bother to do if there are attachments
or I'm suspicious of the emails origin for some other reason).

>   Using Outlook client would be best
> but I would like to learn more about
> the benefits of using another client if it is easy and provides
> more security.

I'll leave it to other who can make recommendations based on current
experience.

-- 
Sean Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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