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Personally -- and please don't misinterpret this as a product
pitch -- I like the approach that we (Trend Micro) have taken
with our ICSS/BASE platform, and that is, once "bad" behavior
has been detected, we can simply send the suspected "bad" system
to a "walled-garden" for either quarantine or remediation.

Deactivating the endystsem is a non-starter in ISP-land, where
it would mean lost revenue -- they ain't gonna do it. Give them
a tool to detect, report, quarantine, and/or remediate, and that
(I believe) is a much better appraich.

$.02,

- ferg

-- "Desai, Ashish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

One approach is to de-activate the customer's network access
and hope they call the ISP customer support. When you de-activate, you
put a notation against the customer account that they have a
BOT/infection.
Most ISP/business have decent CRM systems that allow you to put text
notations against
a customer account. We told the reps to have the customer install
Anti-Virus software.

You control the deactivation rate, so you can control the flow of calls
to the customer support team.
It increases the cost of customer support but is a nice way of not
having to call the customer.

We did this and it works quite well at 10 customers a day. The problem
is when the customer
continue to get re-infected. Its a little frustating to the customer but
the process seems to work.
There is no compliance checking model, once the customer calls we
re-activate their access.
We deactivate after a couple of days if they still show signs of
infection.

Ashish


-----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Evron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [botnets] QoS and bot traffic
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How can this be done using today's technology? Does it require re-design
of hardware or new systems to be designed? I hope to find out and get a
proposal ready,

        Gadi.



--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg(at)netzero.net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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