Hi Carol, We are always open to suggestions for improvement. How do you think they should work, bearing in mind that you need to be able to use N2 and N5 to read the function of other keys.
Best regards Jonathan "Carol Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/2006 08:19 p.m. Please respond to Braillenote List <[email protected]> To "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> cc Subject Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft 7.2 Build 47 Maintenance Release Jonathan, I understand totally where you're coming from, but do think it appears rather odd that you press the N5 twice to get a response but the N2 only once. You see, there's no visible cursor at that point which indicates what's happening. I take your point, though, as I'm sure others do, that this is the way it works. <Smile> -- Carol [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft 7.2 Build 47 Maintenance Release > Hi Carol, > > Unless I'm missing something, the BACK key (N2 by default) is doing what I > would expect in Keyboard Learn mode. If the first display-width of a > key's description is being displayed and I press BACK, the description of > the BACK key is displayed. However, if I have pressed ADVANCE to display > the second or subsequent display-widths, then BACK moves the display back > a display-width at a time until it reaches the beginning of the > description after which it displays its own description. > > Best regards > > Jonathan > > > > > "Carol Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 08/11/2006 06:08 p.m. > Please respond to > Braillenote List <[email protected]> > > > To > "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > cc > > Subject > Re: [Braillenote] KeySoft 7.2 Build 47 Maintenance Release > > > > > > > Hi Jonathan, > > I'd like just to bring your attention to one point, please. > > I took a look at Richard's post yesterday and went through the various > errors he had listed. . . .. > > I notice that, with regard to Keyboard Learn, whilst his observations are > correct and I'm sure you know what you're saying too <Smile> it is also > true > that if you take the reverse key stroke (N2 by default) and work your way > backwards then this in fact works as you'd expect. I'm sure there's a > good > reason for this - and you don't have to explain - but it does tend to > appear > at least as a bug. > > I hope you understand what I'm saying here. I'm not finding it easy to > explain at 5 AM UK time after a sleepless night but I can try again if > needed. > > -- > Carol > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:20 PM > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] KeySoft 7.2 Build 47 Maintenance Release > > >> Hi Richard, >> >> In answer to your points: >> >> 1. Pressing the ADVANCE or PREVIOUS thumb-keys will clear the time from >> the Braille display without putting any characters anywhere. BACKSPACE >> with ENTER is the command to cut off speech. While in previous version > it >> also cleared any messages it meant there wasn't a way to read a long >> detailed message, e.g. the Next Appointment information, in Braille >> without the speech distracting you. >> >> 2. In Keyboard Learn Mode if all of the description of a key's function >> fits on the Braille display, then the ADVANCE key is not required to >> advance the display through the desription and will display its function >> on the first press. If a desription takes more than one display width, >> then it may take several presses of ADVANCE to advance the display > through >> the description before ADVANCE can display its own function. If it > didn't >> do this, then you would never be able to read descriptions longer than > one >> display width in Braille because as soon as you pressed ADVANCE the >> previous description would be replaced by the description of the ADVANCE >> key. >> >> 3. N1 and N4 beep because they have no universal function. Try them in >> Key Announce mode in KeyWord. >> >> 4. Yes, we are aware of problems with some Daisy books, this is > mentioned >> under know issues on the 7.2 build 47 web site. >> >> 5. ENTER with I is the universal command for the Insert Menu. However, >> there is an exception when entering a search string in the word > processor >> or book reader it is used to find an indent. It is not the command to >> indent text, you do that with the tab command or through the Layout > List. >> >> 6. Not sure why it defaults to computer Braille when using the save >> command. You can change to grade 2 using BACKSPACE with B or through > the >> "Grade of Braille for keyboard entry" option in the Options Menu. Have >> added this to our bug list. >> >> 7. When detaching a file, you get the prompt, "... Detach as a KeyWord >> document?". If you use the help command at this point, there are 3 >> options: "To have the file converted to a KeyWord Text Document, press >> 'Y'. To leave the attachment as a Microsoft Word file, press 'N'. To >> have the file converted to a KeyWord Braille Document, press 'B'.". The >> straight 'Yes' option saves the file as a text document because that >> leaves the textual content as-is and is the safest option if you are not >> sure of the content. However, if you want it saved as a Braille > document, >> select the 'B' option. >> >> Hope the above helps. >> >> Best regards >> >> Jonathan Sharp >> >> HumanWare >> 11 Mary Muller Drive, Christchurch >> New Zealand >> >> DDI: +64 3 940 2255 >> Fax: +64-3-384 4933 >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Internet: www.humanware.com >> >> >> >> >> "Richard Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> 07/11/2006 01:31 p.m. >> Please respond to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Please respond to >> Braillenote List <[email protected]> >> >> >> To >> "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> >> cc >> >> Subject >> RE: [Braillenote] KeySoft 7.2 Build 47 Maintenance Release >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bugs still in KeySoft 7.2 build 47 on the PK at least. >> >> If the braille message display is set to zero, and you check the time > with >> enter plus t, you can not clear the time with backspace plus enter; you >> have >> to hit a key that puts a character in your document or hit the joystick > on >> a >> PK. Prior to KeySoft 7.2 backspace plus enter cleared the time. >> >> In keyboard learn mode when you press the advance key, (n 5) you have to >> hit >> it twice before it speaks its function. >> >> Also in keyboard learn mode, n 1 and n 4 just beep. >> >> How about making the joystick scroll the display one width left or > right? >> >> You are also aware of the buggy behavior in the book reader with DAISY >> books. >> In particular, is there any way to fix it so one can read the Sunday New >> York Times. Right now, it always locks up the PK. I just tried it with >> Yesterday's New York Times from Bookshare. >> >> Enter with i brings up the Insert Menu. What happened to the Indent >> command? >> >> Why, when in Keyword, with the pk set to grade 2 for reading and > keyboard, >> when I hit chord-s to save the file does it say, "computer braille is >> required;" when I can use grade 2 if I create a file from the Keyword >> menu? >> >> Also, why when I save a Word attachment from an e-mail, and I select >> Keyword >> as the file type, does it save it as a text file and will not allow me > to >> edit the braille grade? >> >> Richard >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:51 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft 7.2 Build 47 Maintenance Release >> >> >> >> KeySoft 7.2 build 47 maintenance release is now available from the >> following website: >> >> http://www.humanware.com/Resources/downloads/KeySoft7_2_b47.asp >> >> This software should only be installed if you are experiencing one of > the >> problems listed in the Fixed Issues section (see below), or you have >> purchased the Concise Oxford Dictionary and Thesaurus for KeySoft. >> >> If you are upgrading from 7.2 build 43 to 7.2 build 47, you will not >> require a new product key, as 7.2 build 47 will work with your existing >> 7.2 >> product key. >> >> Fixed Issues: >> >> In KeyBook, pressing SPACE to stop reading leaves you at your current >> position rather than returning you to the position where you started >> reading. >> >> When a Daisy book is re-opened the cursor is returned to its previous >> position. >> >> Daisy speech rate is now remembered between opening books. >> >> You can now open Bookshare .BKS files from the File Manager Directory >> option. >> >> In KeyPlan, printing now works. >> >> Full backups now allow subsequent incremental backups to work correctly. >> >> In the Media Player, BACKSPACE with ENTER now pauses playback. >> >> On the BrailleNote PK the joystick now works correctly. >> >> In UK math in the calculator, spaces are now displayed correctly. >> >> The PREVIOUS and NEXT thumb keys no longer give an error beep when going >> to >> links in KeyWeb. >> >> In KeyList, pressing BACKSPACE and ENTER no longer clears the Braille >> display. >> >> On the BrailleNote QT, when FUNCTION with S is used to change task, GPS >> only appears when installed. >> >> On the BrailleNote QT, the calculator now operates correctly after >> directly >> switching from a KeyWord Braille or BRF document. >> >> On the BrailleNote QT, the battery level short cut READ with ESC now > works >> while reading .BRF files in KeyBook. >> >> On the BrailleNote QT, you no longer need to press READ with G to start >> reading a .BRF file in KeyBook. You can just press 'G'. >> >> On the BrailleNote QT, PLUS on the numeric pad now works. >> >> Copying a database using the File Manager will no longer write protect > the >> data file. >> >> When exporting a document you can now create subdirectories at the >> destination directory prompt. >> >> When confirming the deletion of an email folder, literary Braille folder >> names are now spoken correctly. The confirmation prompt now appears on > the >> correct sequence. >> >> When writing an email, the exception that could occur when you delete >> "to", >> "cc" or "bcc" entries has been fixed. >> >> Known Issues: >> >> In some cases, you may experience a long response time or apparent > lock-up >> of your system when reading Daisy books from Bookshare. This is more >> prevalent in large books. We will continue to investigate and work to >> resolve this issue. In the meantime, we wish to provide you with our >> latest >> improvements. >> >> >> >> Matthew Janusauskas >> Technical Support and Training Manager >> HumanWare USA Inc. >> 656 N Kennedy Drive >> Kankakee IL 60901 >> Phone: 800-722-3393 Ext. 204 >> Fax: 815-939-3194 >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Internet: http://www.humanware.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
