Good one Donna;
The only lost data I have had is when a cf card went bad, at least we
think so.  It was only a few backups and 2 books.  Luck me!

Terry Powers


-----Original Message-----
From: donna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:43 AM
To: Chris Hallsworth; BrailleNote List
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Re: Data loss

Hello everyone, I've been using a BrailleNote for four years.  The only
time 
I've lost data is when my Classic crashed.  In three years my PC has
crashed 
twice.  Donna, you might not want to base a decision on one person's 
problems.  There could be something wrong with that unit.  Donna Brown
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.  Philippians 4:13
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BrailleNote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:27 AM
Subject: [Braillenote] Re: Data loss


> OK OK OK, if it happens regularly, then yes I agree it's unacceptable;
I 
> was talking about once in a while situations, not regular ones. Sorry
for 
> any confusion caused.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:28 PM
> Subject: Data loss
>
>
>> Hi Chris, Mary, and all,
>>
>> Actually, Chris, I have to strongly disagree. though what you say
about 
>> PCs is true, that happense *very rarely.  If the BN frequently loses 
>> data, especially if there's been no crash of the device, that is an 
>> unacceptable flaw.  If you can't mostly rely on your device to
preserve 
>> data, why bother owning it in the first place.
>>
>> I currently use a competitor's product--the one that came out in fall
of 
>> 2003. I can't say I *never lose data, but if I do, it's because the
unit 
>> has locked up and a cold reset must be performed, so I know that any
data 
>> that hasn't been backed up is lost. I'm on this list because I was 
>> considering purchasing a BN. If what Mary Ellen describes is a
pervasive 
>> problem with these units, I think that just took the BN right off the

>> table for me. I'll tolerate lots of bugs in a product, but data loss
is 
>> definitely not one of them.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> P.S.  I also you Sprite Backup with my current unit. I know the BN
has 
>> some kind of backup feature, at least I think it does.  It would be a

>> good thing if that program could allow you to back up your data to a 
>> storage card.
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: "Chris Hallsworth"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: 8/7/07 5:01:28 AM
>>>To: "Mary Ellen Earls"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Braillenote 
>>>List"<[email protected]>
>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Comments:
>>>
>>>Mary, sorry to hear you've lost your document, but consider this. 
>>>Sometimes
>>>computers can have glitches, one of which is to lose work that you 
>>>thought
>>>you last saved. There are a handful of reasons why this would be the 
>>>case,
>>>power failure being one of them. So I guess it's the same with the
>>>BrailleNote; the operating system, Windows CE/Keysoft, must have
glitches 
>>>in
>>>them that occur from time to time, and one of these is to erase a
whole
>>>document despite you saved it. So my advice? Consider backing up the
>>>document to some removable device, so that should you lose it you've 
>>>always
>>>got a backup. Also Mary, did this issue happen on a classic or an
mPower? 
>>>As
>>>I say I am sorry to hear what's happened, but it's just one of these 
>>>things
>>>and therefore I hope from this message you'll take my advice and 
>>>hopefully
>>>never lose a document again. I hope this helps.
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:39 AM
>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Comments:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well let me first say that I hope somewhere along the line
Humanware 
>>>> will
>>>> start addressing the issue of these machines loosing huge amounts
of
>>>> material. I am even talking about material which has specifically
been
>>>> saved and the machine just kicks it out. The strange thing is that
the
>>>> document is still there but absolutely no text is there. It is like
>>>> someone went in went to the top of the document and on a bt pressed

>>>> space
>>>> d and space dots 1 4 and the whole document disappeared To me that
is 
>>>> more
>>>> important than anything because I lost 28 pages today never to
recover
>>>> them again. I even tried the save and recover feature to no avail.
>>>> This has been a problem with the Braille Note since I have had one
in
>>>> 2002.
>>>> And I am extremely surprised this has not come up more often but it
has
>>>> not.
>>>> Secondly as far as batteries are concerned, if some of you will 
>>>> remember
>>>> Fs came out in about 2003 or very early 2004 with a pacmate Braille
&
>>>> Speak which had a user replacible battery. Ok they went back and
did a
>>>> total makeover of the machine which came out in the fall of 2004
and 
>>>> guess
>>>> what? The battery was not user replacible. Why? Because there had
been
>>>> numerous problems with the earlier model of the pacmate Bns because
of
>>>> that user replacible batteries.
>>>> I have no doubt technology has come a long way since then and I too

>>>> would
>>>> love to change my battery out but we have to realize hw can only
pack 
>>>> so
>>>> much in an upgrade at any given time and they have only  so many
people 
>>>> in
>>>> development.
>>>> In a perfect world there would be that one perfect machine with 
>>>> everything
>>>> for everyone but alas, this is 2007 the world is not a perfect
world 
>>>> and
>>>> now you have myriads of machines out there to choose from, so you
do 
>>>> not
>>>> like the features of one machine, go to its competitor and perhaps
you
>>>> will find what you want from them.
>>>> Mary Ellen Earls
>>>>
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