Hey Chris, Sorry if my message was a little strong. *smile* I'm a teacher, and I often keep students' grades on my current unit. It's not unusual for me to have several sets of grades on the unit at any given time. Given that losing your students' grades is generally frowned upon, I take a pretty hardline stance on this issue. And you're right, there's a big difference between an occasional problem and a regular one. Mary Ellen's message lead me to believe this is a regular problem, at least for her. And you're also right about backing up data, that just makes sense if you keep important information on your notetaker.
I have a question for the list, doesn't the BN store all data in Flash? This should mean that data isn't lost even during a reset. Can anyone speak to this? Cheers, Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Chris Hallsworth > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:27 AM > To: BrailleNote List > Subject: [Braillenote] Re: Data loss > > > OK OK OK, if it happens regularly, then yes I agree it's > unacceptable; I was > talking about once in a while situations, not regular ones. > Sorry for any > confusion caused. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:28 PM > Subject: Data loss > > > > Hi Chris, Mary, and all, > > > > Actually, Chris, I have to strongly disagree. though what you say > > about > > PCs is true, that happense *very rarely. If the BN > frequently loses data, > > especially if there's been no crash of the device, that is > an unacceptable > > flaw. If you can't mostly rely on your device to preserve > data, why > > bother owning it in the first place. > > > > I currently use a competitor's product--the one that came > out in fall > > of > > 2003. I can't say I *never lose data, but if I do, it's > because the unit > > has locked up and a cold reset must be performed, so I know > that any data > > that hasn't been backed up is lost. I'm on this list because I was > > considering purchasing a BN. If what Mary Ellen describes > is a pervasive > > problem with these units, I think that just took the BN > right off the > > table for me. I'll tolerate lots of bugs in a product, but > data loss is > > definitely not one of them. > > Best, > > Donna > > P.S. I also you Sprite Backup with my current unit. I know > the BN has > > some kind of backup feature, at least I think it does. It > would be a good > > thing if that program could allow you to back up your data > to a storage > > card. > > -----Original Message----- > >>From: "Chris Hallsworth"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: 8/7/07 5:01:28 AM > >>To: "Mary Ellen Earls"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Braillenote > >>List"<[email protected]> > >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Comments: > >> > >>Mary, sorry to hear you've lost your document, but consider this. > >>Sometimes > >>computers can have glitches, one of which is to lose work > that you thought > >>you last saved. There are a handful of reasons why this > would be the case, > >>power failure being one of them. So I guess it's the same with the > >>BrailleNote; the operating system, Windows CE/Keysoft, must > have glitches > >>in > >>them that occur from time to time, and one of these is to > erase a whole > >>document despite you saved it. So my advice? Consider backing up the > >>document to some removable device, so that should you lose > it you've > >>always > >>got a backup. Also Mary, did this issue happen on a classic > or an mPower? > >>As > >>I say I am sorry to hear what's happened, but it's just one > of these > >>things > >>and therefore I hope from this message you'll take my > advice and hopefully > >>never lose a document again. I hope this helps. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:39 AM > >>Subject: [Braillenote] Comments: > >> > >> > >>> Well let me first say that I hope somewhere along the > line Humanware > >>> will > >>> start addressing the issue of these machines loosing huge > amounts of > >>> material. I am even talking about material which has > specifically been > >>> saved and the machine just kicks it out. The strange > thing is that the > >>> document is still there but absolutely no text is there. > It is like > >>> someone went in went to the top of the document and on a > bt pressed > >>> space > >>> d and space dots 1 4 and the whole document disappeared > To me that is > >>> more > >>> important than anything because I lost 28 pages today > never to recover > >>> them again. I even tried the save and recover feature to no avail. > >>> This has been a problem with the Braille Note since I > have had one in > >>> 2002. > >>> And I am extremely surprised this has not come up more > often but it has > >>> not. > >>> Secondly as far as batteries are concerned, if some of > you will remember > >>> Fs came out in about 2003 or very early 2004 with a > pacmate Braille & > >>> Speak which had a user replacible battery. Ok they went > back and did a > >>> total makeover of the machine which came out in the fall > of 2004 and > >>> guess > >>> what? The battery was not user replacible. Why? Because > there had been > >>> numerous problems with the earlier model of the pacmate > Bns because of > >>> that user replacible batteries. > >>> I have no doubt technology has come a long way since then > and I too > >>> would > >>> love to change my battery out but we have to realize hw > can only pack so > >>> much in an upgrade at any given time and they have only > so many people > >>> in > >>> development. > >>> In a perfect world there would be that one perfect machine with > >>> everything > >>> for everyone but alas, this is 2007 the world is not a > perfect world and > >>> now you have myriads of machines out there to choose > from, so you do not > >>> like the features of one machine, go to its competitor > and perhaps you > >>> will find what you want from them. > >>> Mary Ellen Earls > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the > >>> list as well. > >>> > >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >>> > >> > >> > >>___ > >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > >>copy to the list as well. > >> > >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > >> > > > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/bra> illenote > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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