Trant,
Remember that Dave mentioned that AOL was in talks with Google for about a
year, and that they might be migrating to this new Protocole in yet another
year--by end of 2009. That's one year of talking and another of possibly
moving over.
Want to play the waiting game?
Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Then, I suggest you look at a netbook
you like for less than $500, in time to think and save up for a Braille
Note, Stale Toat.
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trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite number of
highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great literary
works in Braille.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Hardy" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
Hi Dave,
You're correct, and I apologize - particularly as I paraphrased your
comment
along with your name, I should have done so less sloppily, and did indee
dmisrepresent what you had said. My apologies.
What I meant (correctly, I think) is that HW is implying that closed
instant
messaging protocols will decrease in popularity, and while they may do so
some day, I feel certain that Windows Live and Yahoo!'s protocols will go
strong for many months to come.
Regards,
Grant
Grant
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:34 PM, dave wilkinson
<[email protected]
wrote:
Dear Grant,
In your post to the BrailleNote listsereve, you misrepresented what I
said. I said that more and more chat clients were using XMPP, and as
proof of that Greg Stillson cited AOL's discussions with Google. The
point wasn't that chat services are going away, it is that they are
starting to use more open platforms.
Dave
Dave Wilkinson
Western Region Blindness Product Specialist
800-722-3393, ext. 241
[email protected]
www.humanware.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:04 PM
To: BrailleNote mailing list
Subject: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty
Hi all,
In today's Tech Talk presentation on KeySoft 8, I emphasized the fact
that while nearly everyone on the University of British Columbia campus
with me carries around laptops and mobile devices with Windows Live
Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger, I know nobody who uses Google Talk,
iChat, or any other open instant messaging service. And with two other
notetaking products--the Braille Sense and the PAC Mate--supporting
Windows Live, I asked at what stage, if at all, the BrailleNote would
follow suit. In an evasive response, Dave Wilkinson from Humanware
implied that somehow Windows Live and Yahoo! were going to disintegrate,
so it really isn't necessary anyway.
Not true: the one and only reason neither Yahoo! nor Windows Live need
to use an open instant messaging standard is due to the sheer volume of
users who already populate their services. Rather than adapting to this
truth as other competing products have, the BrailleNote from Humanware
will change the way you communicate in realtime...if you can convince
everyone you know to switch instant mesaging clients.
There is also no way to sign in invisibly (also called appearing
offline) in KeyChat. This is standard in all other messaging clients
that I have come across, and is a great way to see who's online without
getting flooded with instant messages. Greg Stilson from Humanware
discounted this and called it "kinda creepy", so apparently the
BrailleNote user base will not see this function, either.
Normally I don't rant, but I am upset with the attitude of these
Humanware
representatives: instead of politely stating that these essential
features are not yet present in KeyChat, they instead discounted their
importance.
So to summarize: communicate in real time with the 1 % of your friends
that KeyChat will support, and don't expect to be able to sign in
invisibly, cuz that's just kinda creepy!
Grant
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