I'm not sure about this, but since the system puts those line breaks there, why not leave it be and add something? Most control caracters are in invisible in print. Just a thought.
Brenda Mueller > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul Henrichsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 14:37:39 -0800 >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks >Hi, Terri. Thanks for the suggestions. I will bet that whoever put this on >Gutenberg just put it up there as it would appear in print. I'll bet that >is why the verses have colons between chapter and verse number. >I forgot about that find next command. >So many things to learn<grin>. >My family laughingly calls it dad's toy. >At 1/2/2004, you wrote: >>The "find next" command is read with n. >>In literary grade 2 braille, the correct way to write biblical references >>is the write the chapter number followed by a number sign then the verse >>number, example: John 3#16. To get the BN to read this in perfect grade 2 >>braille, replace all the colons with number signs. >>I'm generally not a stickler, but I hate seeing biblical references written >>in incorrect braille, especially when a blind person does it. Sighted >>people don't know any better, but blind people who read braille do know >>better. >>I hope your Bible is divided into the 66 books. The BN doesn't like large >>files. >>Terri, Amateur radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, >>California >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:21 PM >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks >>> Hi, Terry. The bible I downloaded from project gutenberg doesn't have >>> chapter headings. What they do is have a title like the gospel according >>to >>> saint matthew. Then they start with one colon one. When they get to >>chapter >>> two, it just starts with a new paragraph then 2 colon one ect. >>> I could find a book, say luke, then do another search for a verse or just >>a >>> chapter by putting in the number and a colon like five colon. >>> I am writing this out since I don't know how your speech would pick things >>> up if I just put 2:. >>> I could also add in, myself the word chapter followed by the numbers for >>> each chapter. >>> I need to look up on the documentation to see if there is a find next >>> function in the bn qt. >>> At 12/31/2003, you wrote: >>>>Here is another idea. Could you just search for the word chapter? >>>>Terry Powers >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Paul Henrichsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:27 PM >>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks >>>>Hi. That's what I am doing, putting a hard line break inbetween each >>verse >>>>and two in between each chapter. However, sometimes, some verses might >>have >>>>one or two soft line breaks in them. If you use read I or O, it might hit >>>>one of those soft line breaks rather than just tump to the hard line >>break. >>>>The read 7 and 9 work great for umping between chapters. >>>>At 12/30/2003, you wrote: >>>>>Why not let each verse be a sentence by placing one hard return between >>>>>each verse. Then put two between each chapter. Terri already posted >>on >>>>>how to change the bn to sentence mode, so I won't repeat it. Hope this >>>>>helps. I suppose the other thing you could do is make the pages really >>>>>long and put a new page marker between each chapter. I wouldn't do >>that if >>>>>you ever want to print from that file though. Hope that helps or at >>least >>>>>gives you some ideas. >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:54 AM >>>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks >>>>>Hi, Londa. I see what you mean. I was thinking, though, of using the >>>>>paragraphs for chapters and the single lines for versus. If I use >>>>>paragraphs or double returns for verses, I won't have anything to use >>to >>>>>jump by chapter. >>>>>At 12/29/2003, you wrote: >>>>>>Hi Paul, >>>>>>You can do this. I have a Bible that is set up this way. The read >>with >>>>u >>>>>>and o see a paragraph as two hard returns. Basically, you would need >>to >>>>>>press enter twice between each verse. It might be better to use a >>>>keyword >>>>>>document. Then you won't have the problem of importing. If you want >>to >>>>>>just hit enter once, you can, but you have to tell the bn what your >>>>>>paragraph boundary is. I can't remember how to do that off the top >>of my >>>>>>head, but I can find it again easily enough if that's what you want. >>You >>>>>>can also set the previous and next thumb-keys to scroll by paragraph. >>>>> From >>>>>>any document, go to the options menu with function with O. Press B >>for >>>>>>Braille display options. Space through the list until you hear, >>>>"function >>>>>>of previous and next thumb-keys?" It will then say what the current >>>>>setting >>>>>>is. Press P for paragraph. I often find that faster for looking >>through >>>>>>the Bible quickly. Hope this helps. >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:58 PM >>>>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks >>>>>>Hi. What I am trying to do is to work with setting up the old >>testament. >>>>>>What I want to do is to use read u and read o to jump by verse. This >>>>works >>>>>>unless there are line breaks in the text. If there are, read u and o >>jump >>>>>>to those line breaks. Where I should be able to jump between, say, >>verse >>>>>>nine and ten in a chapter, it jumps to those line breaks instead of >>>>>jumping >>>>>>directly to verse ten. >>>>>>I thought that I might be able to fix things so read u and o would >>just >>>>>>jump from one verse to the next. >>>>>>At 12/25/2003, you wrote: >>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>The BrailleNote automatically inserts these line breaks when you >>reach >>>>>the >>>>>>>end of a line. They cannot be deleted, although you could change >>the >>>>>>margin >>>>>>>setting. >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:50 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] removing line breaks >>>>>>>> Hi, Everyone. >>>>>>>> I am trying to remove line breaks from a file. I can see the >>dollar >>>>l >>>>>>when >>>>>>>> I move the cursor onto it.However, if I press the delete key, it >>>>>>removes >>>>>>>> the linebreak joining two words together. If I put a space back >>in >>>>so >>>>>>that >>>>>>>> the words are not joined, the line break comes back. >>>>>>>> I tried doing a find and replace, but I was told that dollar l >>was >>>>>not >>>>>>>found. >>>>>>>> How can I get these removed? I am already breaking lines with a >>>>>dollar >>>>>>p. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Paul Henrichsen >>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> <home.pacbell.net/paulh52 >>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>>___ >>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>Paul Henrichsen >>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>><home.pacbell.net/paulh52 >>>>>>___ >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>>___ >>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>Paul Henrichsen >>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>><home.pacbell.net/paulh52 >>>>>___ >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>>___ >>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>Paul Henrichsen >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>><home.pacbell.net/paulh52 >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> Paul Henrichsen >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> <home.pacbell.net/paulh52 >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >Paul Henrichsen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED] ><home.pacbell.net/paulh52 >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
