Dear Paul,

You are right.  Sighted people use colons in their references and we use
number signs.

The BN is a very remarkable "toy" but I think of it as a necessary tool.

By and by, things will become second nature to you.

Terri, Amateur radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign AAT9PX,
California
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks


> Hi, Terri. Thanks for the suggestions. I will bet that whoever put this on
> Gutenberg just put it up there as it would appear in print. I'll bet that
> is why the verses have colons between chapter and verse number.
> I forgot about that find next command.
> So many things to learn<grin>.
> My family laughingly calls it dad's toy.
> At 1/2/2004, you wrote:
>
> >The "find next" command is read with n.
> >
> >In literary grade 2 braille, the correct way to write biblical
references
> >is the write the chapter number followed by a number sign then the verse
> >number, example: John 3#16.  To get the BN to read this in perfect grade
2
> >braille, replace all the colons with number signs.
> >
> >I'm generally not a stickler, but I hate seeing biblical references
written
> >in incorrect braille, especially when a blind person does it.  Sighted
> >people don't know any better, but blind people who read braille do know
> >better.
> >
> >I hope your Bible is divided into the 66 books.  The BN doesn't like
large
> >files.
> >
> >Terri, Amateur radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign AAT9PX,
> >California
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:21 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks
> >
> >
> > > Hi, Terry. The bible I downloaded from project gutenberg doesn't have
> > > chapter headings. What they do is have a title like the gospel
according
> >to
> > > saint matthew. Then they start with one colon one. When they get to
> >chapter
> > > two, it just starts with a new paragraph then 2 colon one ect.
> > > I could find a book, say luke, then do another search for a verse or
just
> >a
> > > chapter by putting in the number and a colon like five colon.
> > > I am writing this out since I don't know how your speech would pick
things
> > > up if I just put 2:.
> > > I could also add in, myself the word chapter followed by the numbers
for
> > > each chapter.
> > > I need to look up on the documentation to see if there is a find next
> > > function in the bn qt.
> > > At 12/31/2003, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >Here is another idea. Could you just search for the word chapter?
> > > >Terry Powers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Paul Henrichsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:27 PM
> > > >To: Braillenote List
> > > >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi. That's what I am doing, putting a hard line break inbetween each
> >verse
> > > >and two in between each chapter. However, sometimes, some verses
might
> >have
> > > >one or two soft line breaks in them. If you use read I or O, it might
hit
> > > >one of those soft line breaks rather than just tump to the hard line
> >break.
> > > >The read 7 and 9 work great for umping between chapters.
> > > >At 12/30/2003, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Why not let each verse be a sentence by placing one hard return
between
> > > > >each verse.  Then put two between each chapter.  Terri already
posted
> >on
> > > > >how to change the bn to sentence mode, so I won't repeat it.  Hope
this
> > > > >helps.  I suppose the other thing you could do is make the pages
really
> > > > >long and put a new page marker between each chapter.  I wouldn't do
> >that if
> > > > >you ever want to print from that file though.  Hope that helps or
at
> >least
> > > > >gives you some ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From:   Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Sent:   Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:54 AM
> > > > >To:     Braillenote List
> > > > >Subject:        RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi, Londa. I see what you mean. I was thinking, though, of using
the
> > > > >paragraphs for chapters and the single lines for versus. If I use
> > > > >paragraphs or double returns for verses, I won't have anything to
use
> >to
> > > > >jump by chapter.
> > > > >At 12/29/2003, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Hi Paul,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You can do this.  I have a Bible that is set up this way.  The
read
> >with
> > > >u
> > > > > >and o see a paragraph as two hard returns.  Basically, you would
need
> >to
> > > > > >press enter twice between each verse.  It might be better to use
a
> > > >keyword
> > > > > >document.  Then you won't have the problem of importing.  If you
want
> >to
> > > > > >just hit enter once, you can, but you have to tell the bn what
your
> > > > > >paragraph boundary is.  I can't remember how to do that off the
top
> >of my
> > > > > >head, but I can find it again easily enough if that's what you
want.
> >You
> > > > > >can also set the previous and next thumb-keys to scroll by
paragraph.
> > > > >  From
> > > > > >any document, go to the options menu with function with O.  Press
B
> >for
> > > > > >Braille display options.  Space through the list until you hear,
> > > >"function
> > > > > >of previous and next thumb-keys?" It will then say what the
current
> > > > >setting
> > > > > >is.  Press P for paragraph.  I often find that faster for looking
> >through
> > > > > >the Bible quickly.  Hope this helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From:   Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Sent:   Friday, December 26, 2003 12:58 PM
> > > > > >To:     Braillenote List
> > > > > >Subject:        Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi. What I am trying to do is to work with setting up the old
> >testament.
> > > > > >What I want to do is to use read u and read o to jump by verse.
This
> > > >works
> > > > > >unless there are line breaks in the text. If there are, read u
and o
> >jump
> > > > > >to those line breaks. Where I should be able to jump between,
say,
> >verse
> > > > > >nine and ten in a chapter, it jumps to those line breaks instead
of
> > > > >jumping
> > > > > >directly to verse ten.
> > > > > >I thought that I might be able to fix things so read u and o
would
> >just
> > > > > >jump from one verse to the next.
> > > > > >At 12/25/2003, you wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > >The BrailleNote automatically inserts these line breaks when
you
> >reach
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >end of a line. They cannot be deleted, although you could
change
> >the
> > > > > >margin
> > > > > > >setting.
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:50 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: [Braillenote] removing line breaks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi, Everyone.
> > > > > > > > I am trying to remove line breaks from a file. I can see the
> >dollar
> > > >l
> > > > > >when
> > > > > > > > I move the cursor onto it.However, if I press the delete
key, it
> > > > > >removes
> > > > > > > > the linebreak joining two words together. If I put a space
back
> >in
> > > >so
> > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > the words are not joined, the line break comes back.
> > > > > > > > I tried doing a find and replace, but I was told that dollar
l
> >was
> > > > >not
> > > > > > >found.
> > > > > > > > How can I get these removed? I am already breaking lines
with a
> > > > >dollar
> > > > > >p.
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > Paul Henrichsen
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